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« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2008, 05:54:18 » |
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Hello, tarkaline, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2008, 16:43:50 » |
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Much fewer It's either 'many fewer' or 'much less'. At least you were right to use 'fewer', so I'll only deduct five marks    |
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The SprinterMeister
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2008, 22:03:34 » |
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Probably unrelated to this thread but just going to throw it in here for the sake of it - class 143s will be refurbished at St Blazey.
Ermmmm No they won't! Where did that nugget of information come from? |
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2008, 22:15:24 » |
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Surely though losing all of those 142s at the end of the year once the refurb is complete will be a disaster! There arent that many units currently being refurbished!
There's an unverified rumour going around that FGW▸ will keep 7 142s even after they get the 150s from London Overground and London Midland, hence why FGW are refurbishing them. No, they are keeping 7 142's until the 150's become available. The game plan always was 12x 142's until 31-10-2008 and then 7x 142's until the 150's become available. The 5 going back should be replaced by the 5 15x that are stopped for refurbishment at any given point in time. 153 units are now all done. Still some 150/2's and 158's to go. The 150's are being replaced by 172's for which the order has been signed but as yet they are not in production. Hence the greater amount of internal refresh given to the 7 142's that will be staying on post October this year. It appears the EX based 142's have exceeded 5000mpc making them one of the most reliable Pacer fleets in the country. |
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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2008, 23:05:38 » |
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The SprinterMeister, welcome and thanks for the info! Do you have any idea when the 172s will go into production and how long the 142s will be kept for past October?
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« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2008, 23:15:56 » |
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The 172s will be delivered to LM▸ by mid/late 2010.
In the meantime, I am not sure whether LM are going to refurb the 150s as a stock gap. They have yet to apply their logo to the 150s (although all mention of "Central Trains" was obliterated within days!)!
If LM decide not to, they will be in a dreadful state - they are bad enough now. It is clear that they rarely get proper maintenance.
Has it been confirmed that FGW▸ will get the 150s?
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« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2008, 23:23:57 » |
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Has it been confirmed that FGW▸ will get the 150s?
That was the plan last I heard. Depends I guess on the machinations of the DFT▸ and how long it actually takes to deliver the 172's. |
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« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2008, 16:52:49 » |
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Ah yes, 5 142s which I suspect Northern Rail won't have any use for ...
On inspection of proposed 2008 timetables Northern estimate they will need 20 extra units to be able to cope with increased demands and less paths for local trains caused by more Intercity trains. They currently don't have any units in storage (those were the 142s that went to FGW▸ .) http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/vwc-Northern_red_030608.pdf |
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« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2008, 19:00:59 » |
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Ah yes, 5 142s which I suspect Northern Rail won't have any use for ...
On inspection of proposed 2008 timetables Northern estimate they will need 20 extra units to be able to cope with increased demands and less paths for local trains caused by more Intercity trains. They currently don't have any units in storage (those were the 142s that went to FGW▸ .) http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/vwc-Northern_red_030608.pdfWhy have the DfT» approved the Virgin timetable when it affects commuters so much? Coventry-B'ham services will be axed to make room- as will Stockport to Manchester, when they are already packed. Relibility will also go down. And I would like to know where Virgin are finding the stock to increase both B'ham and M'chester to 3tph (when Vomiters are used on West Midlands to Scotland services)!!! |
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« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2008, 19:05:08 » |
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"Vehicles" reads coaches to me, so they only need 10 more units.
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« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2008, 19:16:53 » |
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Relibility will also go down.
And I would like to know where Virgin are finding the stock to increase both B'ham and M'chester to 3tph (when Vomiters are used on West Midlands to Scotland services)!!!
Virgin don't need to find the stock, they have the stock. It's called Pendolinos. Oh, and 10 minute turnarounds at Euston, hehehehehe. |
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« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2008, 21:30:20 » |
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Oh, and 10 minute turnarounds at Euston, hehehehehe.
Yeah right, I'd love to see them achieve that. Maybe in 10 or so years time. At this present moment in time no chance. |
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« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2008, 22:22:09 » |
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Relibility will also go down.
And I would like to know where Virgin are finding the stock to increase both B'ham and M'chester to 3tph (when Vomiters are used on West Midlands to Scotland services)!!!
Virgin don't need to find the stock, they have the stock. It's called Pendolinos. Oh, and 10 minute turnarounds at Euston, hehehehehe. Yes, I know that Virgin have Pendolinos. But where are they getting stock for the huge enhancements? |
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« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2008, 22:52:04 » |
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Relibility will also go down.
And I would like to know where Virgin are finding the stock to increase both B'ham and M'chester to 3tph (when Vomiters are used on West Midlands to Scotland services)!!!
Virgin don't need to find the stock, they have the stock. It's called Pendolinos. Oh, and 10 minute turnarounds at Euston, hehehehehe. Yes, I know that Virgin have Pendolinos. But where are they getting stock for the huge enhancements? Tighter diagramming of the existing rolling stock. I gather Alstom seem to think there will be less Pendos in for maintainance during the day. Going to be a lot of lost mileage if one of them does sit down however. |
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« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2008, 00:14:41 » |
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Don't forget Virgin are also getting five more SuperVoyagers from CrossCountry for the December timetable once the XC▸ HSTs▸ are back from overhaul
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