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Author Topic: Grand Central applies for Newcastle–Brighton via North Downs  (Read 106 times)
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« on: Today at 12:48:39 »

Arriva's Grand Central arm are apparently applying to run five trains daily each way between Newcastle and Brighton, via Banbury, Oxford, Reading and Gatwick:

https://news.arriva.co.uk/news/arriva-group-submits-open-access-rail-application-to-connect-newcastle-and-brighton-via-london-gatwick

Given that CrossCountry don't show any signs of bringing their own Newcastle–Reading service back up to full strength, good luck to them. Suspect it will be deemed too abstractive though.

(via the Oxford Clarion - https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:sehe5pdc7ptfh5ayttdusqpp/post/3lnmxy7cfqk2x )
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« Reply #1 on: Today at 13:51:10 »

That looks like it would be an attractive alternative for getting to Gatwick from Reading compared to the current GWR (Great Western Railway) Turbo service - assuming decent rolling stock. 
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« Reply #2 on: Today at 13:52:34 »

Indeed - and maybe too extractive....I wonder what rolling stock they have identified?
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« Reply #3 on: Today at 15:12:05 »

They're saying trains with 300 seats which puts it into 5-car Class 80x territory (302-326 seats), or perhaps the ex-TransPennine Mk5+loco (291 seats)?

Arriva's order of 9 new 'tri-mode' Hitachi units for their East Coast route might be part of the long-term plan, but even they aren't due in service until 2028.
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 15:31:07 »

Chiltern has/had its eyes on the ex-TPE (Trans Pennine Express) stock....
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« Reply #5 on: Today at 19:49:49 »

I saw someone say it was planned to use class 180 units.
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