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Author Topic: Mum run over trying to get on bus that left early - Nottingham, 22 October 2024  (Read 501 times)
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« on: April 07, 2025, 19:28:55 »

A very sad story, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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A mother was run over and killed by a double decker bus she was trying to get on after it left the stop early, an inquest has heard.

Helaleh Cheraghmakani, known as Hailey, banged on the door to be let in before falling down and under the bus in Nottingham city centre on the morning of 22 October, when she was due to start a new job at Boots.

A collision investigator said it was likely the 34-year-old had been caught by the tyre next to the door as the bus turned left at a junction, causing her to fall.

A coroner found the collision was "unavoidable" because it was dark and the driver would not have seen Hailey, but her husband said he intended to "fight for justice" through the civil courts.

Ramin Dehbandi, Hailey's husband, said: "She was a wonderful wife and mother and I loved her with all my heart.  To make the incredibly painful situation even worse, our daughter Liana blames me for her mummy not being there, that I am stopping her from coming back, and calls me Daddy Monster.  She asked me the other day if I would let mummy pick her up one day from nursery and I could not sleep from the sorrow."

Hailey was due to start a new job at Boots in Beeston, Nottinghamshire, the inquest was told.  She was due to start at 06:00 BST, but the inquest at Nottingham Coroner's Court heard she was running late because she had initially been given the wrong start date.

The bus was meant to leave George Street at 06:00, but the driver left 45 seconds early.  The inquest heard this was acceptable within Nottingham City Transport's policies, which allow buses to leave stops up to a minute early.

CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele-Vision) footage showed Hailey running down George Street as she tried to catch up with the bus.

The driver, Anthony Watson, had indicated right when he left the bus stop and was still indicating right when he turned left at the junction on to Lower Parliament Street, the inquest heard.  In his statement to police, Mr Watson claimed he had indicated left.  Hailey left the pavement and stepped into the carriageway as she banged the doors.

In his statement, the driver said he had "heard a bang" on the side of the bus but "did not know what what the bang was".  He said he continued to pull out of the junction, but braked when he saw the nearside back wheel going over a person.

The inquest heard Hailey and her husband had been together since they were 18 and were originally from Iran.  They moved to the UK (United Kingdom) in September 2023, shortly after having their daughter, as they wanted to give her a better future.

In his statement to police, Mr Dehbandi said there were different practices for catching buses in Iran.  "In Iran, if you run for the bus and wave your hands at the bus they often stop; this was common practice," he said.

However, the inquest heard it was against Nottingham City Transport's Conditions of Carriage, external to let passengers on once a bus had left the stop.  Section 34 states: "Once buses have closed their doors and the driver has signalled to pull away, the bus will not be able to let you board because the driver is committed to re-joining the main traffic flow."  Section 28 also states: "For safety reasons, buses will only stop at recognised bus stops to allow passengers to board."

Police investigated but decided it was not a criminal matter, and an inquest was therefore held.

Assistant coroner Nathanael Hartley concluded Hailey died as a result of a road traffic collision.  He found the driver's failure to indicate left did not have an impact on the collision, as Hailey had caught the bus the day before and knew it turned left at the junction.  He found the collision was "unavoidable" due to the lighting conditions at that time of the morning, and the dark clothing Hailey was wearing, meaning the driver would not have seen her.  He said her cause of death was multiple injuries and she died at the scene.

Daniel Denton, a solicitor from Hodge Jones & Allen representing Mr Dehbandi, said: "This is such an unimaginably tragic case that has devastated the lives of my client and his daughter.  Their loving wife and mother were snatched away from them and we need answers as to how this could have been allowed to happen.  We will continue our fight for answers and for justice for Helaleh through the civil courts."


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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2025, 03:08:18 »

That is incredibly sad and tragic.

I am astounded by the "buses are allowed to leave up to one minute early." Is this commonly allowed elsewhere? Is it publicised anywhere visible to the public, such as at a bus stop?
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2025, 05:41:42 »

I am astounded by the "buses are allowed to leave up to one minute early." Is this commonly allowed elsewhere? Is it publicised anywhere visible to the public, such as at a bus stop?

It's not  that unusual I don't think - I have seen "bus drivers can be disciplined for leaving over a minute ahead of time" and the implication is that it IS allowed.   Also to note that buses are timed at just a limited number of timing points along the way, and the times at intermediate points are estimates only.  The bus stop outside our home is just a one minute run from Melksham Market Place - a timed stop - but you really need to be there a good five minutes before Melksham Market Place time and before the estimated time given on the stop. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2025, 09:32:55 »

Early running can be a disciplinary offence.
Think the rules state it IS an offence, but enforcement isn't.......
Pulling away from a stop is always the difficult part.
Load passengers, wait for them to sit down; late running passengers arrive "That's lucky you're late".
(Wouldn't have been late if I'd pulled away without waiting for you).
Check nearside mirror for more passengers. Check offside mirror, indicate, prepare to pull away, constantly checking traffic for way to filter in, etc.
The driver cannot then be looking at his nearside mirror or doors for later passengers.
Spare in traffic/someone flashed to let you out (thank you) and away you go.

Sorry passengers, the driver is committed to his departure routine.

(Cue angry late passenger at departed stop waving arms and shouting about you running early, occasionally with telephone/email call to complaints about that incident).
A frequent occurrence for all drivers.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2025, 13:37:23 »


Check offside mirror, indicate, prepare to pull away, constantly checking traffic for way to filter in, etc.
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Spare in traffic/someone flashed to let you out (thank you) and away you go.


Back in my delivery van driving days, I always tried to let any bus out: I knew from my own experience how it can be a bit of a 'mare to pull away from the curb into traffic.

Likewise, as appropriate, I'd slow down and invite an oncoming bus to turn right in front of me at a junction: my van becoming a gentle rolling road block for a few seconds for the cars behind me.  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2025, 15:05:18 »

I tend to let buses that are indicating pull away. I really don't mind trundling along behind them for a bit. Even out of town services. At most a few minutes added to my journey. I used to be a regular bus user before passing my test and always shared the druvers' frustrations at not being allowed to pull away.

Agricultural vehicles that don't take the opportunity to pull in when there's a long train of cars behind on the other hand...
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Back in my delivery van driving days, I always tried to let any bus out: I knew from my own experience how it can be a bit of a 'mare to pull away from the curb into traffic.

Likewise, as appropriate, I'd slow down and invite an oncoming bus to turn right in front of me at a junction: my van becoming a gentle rolling road block for a few seconds for the cars behind me.  Wink

I always tried to say a thank you to those who let me turn right in front of them/allowed me to pull out in front of them.
So much appreciated.
My heart goes out to the driver involved in that incident.  He's been cleared by the Police and Traffic Commission. But the memory will haunt him for a very long time.
As for the angry husband pursuing a claim against the driver.  The driver has already a lot on his conscience.
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