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« on: January 06, 2025, 10:30:17 »

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Alteration: 10:46 from Filton Abbey Wood.
Alteration: 11:51 from Filton Abbey Wood.

11:51 Filton Abbey Wood to Bristol Temple Meads due 12:05 will be started from Bristol Parkway.
This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway.

The stopper from Bristol Temple Meads via Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road and Ashley Down peters out at Filton Abbey Wood - one stations short of the potential interchange with express services to Swansea, London, Birmingham and beyond.   And yet - when push comes to shove, guess what - it can run up to that interchange at Bristol Parkway.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2025, 11:11:06 »

To be fair, BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) is taking fewer trains than normal today. My son is en route to Cornwall this morning, and their Leeds - Plymouth train was (we assume) diverted via Severn Tunnel, skipping BPW.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2025, 11:28:07 »

To be fair, BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) is taking fewer trains than normal today. My son is en route to Cornwall this morning, and their Leeds - Plymouth train was (we assume) diverted via Severn Tunnel, skipping BPW.

Indeed - though it's not the first time we have noted these trains reversing at Bristol Parkway, is it?
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« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 16:12:51 »

Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding wasn't that they couldn't. More that they didn't want to given it may give people the wrong idea since these services will form the Henbury services in time meaning they couldn't simply be extended to Parkway from Filton like now. Basically giving a worse service now to avoid the obvious negative reaction when they'd have to cut it from Parkway again in the future.
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« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 16:30:45 »

Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding wasn't that they couldn't. More that they didn't want to given it may give people the wrong idea since these services will form the Henbury services in time meaning they couldn't simply be extended to Parkway from Filton like now. Basically giving a worse service now to avoid the obvious negative reaction when they'd have to cut it from Parkway again in the future.

I think there'a a bit of truth in both arguments.  There's no doubt Parkway struggles at times even with its four platforms and two goods loops, as so much has to get routed through the flat junction immediately west of the station.  You don't want to make that worse, especially if those trains are starting/terminating there and taking up valuable platform space whilst they do.
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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 18:51:34 »

Maybe I'm wrong, but my understanding wasn't that they couldn't. More that they didn't want to given it may give people the wrong idea since these services will form the Henbury services in time meaning they couldn't simply be extended to Parkway from Filton like now. Basically giving a worse service now to avoid the obvious negative reaction when they'd have to cut it from Parkway again in the future.

I think there'a a bit of truth in both arguments.  There's no doubt Parkway struggles at times even with its four platforms and two goods loops, as so much has to get routed through the flat junction immediately west of the station.  You don't want to make that worse, especially if those trains are starting/terminating there and taking up valuable platform space whilst they do.

Most of the BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)-FIT-BRI stoppers do their reversal from P4 to P3, via a signal BI2052 on the way to Henbury. However, just two per day do so from P2 to P1 (i.e. on the Mains), using a platform at BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains), and running ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) (2H58/59 10:46 and 2H62/63 12:54). So the train in question does not, and had to be switched to P2 on arrival from BRI as there is no route from P4 to BPW.

I think the choice of reversal must depend on small timetable details. The move has to obstruct paths somewhere: it's a question of whether a gap can be found on the Wales/Henbury lines (generally easier) or the Main Lines and in BPW. On Monday, with the line onward to Gloucester closed by flooding, most trains that might go that way had been cancelled. So there was both a lack of conflicting occupied paths on the Mains and a need for connectivity via BPW to be replaced - hence the switch. Don't read too much into it!
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