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Author Topic: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury  (Read 4021 times)
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2025, 08:38:55 »

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08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58

08:06 Warminster to Swindon due 08:58 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Warminster and Dilton Marsh.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2025, 09:43:05 »

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06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

Facilities on the 06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 2.

Sensible.  On schooldays should always be 3 carriages - otherwise it overloads in the Stroud Valley. During covid was the "most overcrowded train" on GWR (Great Western Railway) ...
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2025, 15:13:31 »

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14:18 Westbury to Swindon due 15:00
15:15 Swindon to Westbury due 15:59
16:23 Westbury to Swindon due 17:05
17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:14 Swindon to Westbury due 20:57
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

Facilities on the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2025, 11:18:25 »

Journey Check reports just 3 cancellations (and no short runs and  just one delayed train) across the whole of the GWR (Great Western Railway) network as I write.

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15:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Warminster due 16:43
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:14 Swindon to Westbury due 20:57

and in case you wondered

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This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2025, 18:51:30 »

Journey Check reports just 3 cancellations (and no short runs and  just one delayed train) across the whole of the GWR (Great Western Railway) network as I write.

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15:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Warminster due 16:43
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:14 Swindon to Westbury due 20:57

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This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Restored (hope not too many people have replanned their journey) but now

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17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be delayed at Stroud.

This is due to trespassers on the railway

Edit to add ... 7 minute delay, mostly made up by a quick reversal at Swindon
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2025, 06:33:36 »

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05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09

05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09 will be terminated at Westbury.
It will no longer call at Dilton Marsh, Warminster, Salisbury, Romsey and Southampton Central.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

If it can get to Westbury - am I to read it / can I guess that the train is being raided off the Southampton service to go somewhere else instead?
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2025, 07:30:28 »

Yes, it went to Weymouth at 06:50.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2025, 07:43:11 »

Yes, it went to Weymouth at 06:50.

Perhaps it always should - with a train starting from Westbury forming the Southampton service a few minutes later.  Discussion point but the failure of the train from Swindon (and Trowbridge) to connect onwards to Weymouth is one of life's frustrations ... not on the same scale as war and famine, but still a frustration ...
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2025, 08:35:14 »

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06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47

06:35 Salisbury to Worcester Foregate Street due 09:47 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse, Gloucester, Cheltenham Spa, Ashchurch For Tewkesbury, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street.
This is due to a fault with the signalling system.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2025, 09:22:25 »

Out of order - from yesterday:



The railway was closed at Trowbridge "at the request of the police due to ammunition being found near the line" and these things happen.   The ongoing information at Melksham was AWFUL - for the longest time the 06:32 just said "delayed"  and the 07:21 was on time.  Even when the southbound train was stated with a time again - estimated 07:18 - the northbound train at 07:21 still said "on time".   That makes a mockery of the "system knowledge" as it's predicting an impossibility on the single line and I found myself chatting with other passenger and telling them "not before 07:33" for the Worcester train.

"Delayed" on a 3 line screen is useless; there IS a big screen there (facing the car park) and all that was saying was the same thing with 2 lines each for the following 3 or 4 services.   Could have been more descriptive.   When I eventually got to Westbury, the screens there were showing distrupted train departures alternating with a desciption of what the problem was and why.   Why on earth could the same not be done - automatically share across stations big and small with responsive design so there's no need for human input on a. station by station business at the time of extreme re-organisation?   

I was at the Rail Innovation Exhibition yesterday (ironic) and lots of clever stuff. BUT there could be so much basic stuff done getting information right for passengers at the time of disruption - accurate (and not afraid to say "don't know"), consistent, and perhaps with interactive tools.  Lots of things being displayed but frightening on the information display side as to how fragmented, partial and at times embryonic it is - leaving passengers literally out in the cold.   I did a better job in Melksham reading my phone and helping to explain roughly what was going on from scant evidence.

Yes, I did try the help point.  It was obvious to me that the 06:32 would miss the connection at Westbury on into the 07:00 to Paddington with my "this train only" ticket, and if that misses the next fastest way to London in the 07:21 change at Swindon.   The nice chap on the help point told me that my next train was the 07:58 from Westbury and my ticket would be accepted on it, but that my advanced ticket was for that route only and would not be accepted if I took the next alternative which happened to use a different route (via Swindon) even if it got me there quicker. He then told me that I COULD use my ticket on SWR» (South Western Railway - about) trains such as one that was running from Yeovil Pen Mill because "ticket acceptance is in place".  I got the impression that his geography was not great and he was of the understanding that Yeovil is just a short walk up the road from Melksham.

2O19 "adjusted" to not run beyond Salisbury (it was so late that the school traffic it normally carries south of there would have gone on the following train operated by SWR if they could all get in!)

2M81 got to Westbury on time, and sat there until the line re-opened ... and for some considerable time thereafter.  It was still there when I arrived at 07:30 when it should have left at 07:05 ... and stayed even longer as trains via Bath Spa were displatched out of order - perhaps because it was so late that "what's another 10 minutes?".  There were hard decisions to make here - a backlog of trains and a limited line.

Net result ... 2M81 ran only just ahead of the path of 2M13, probably took much of its traffic, and delayed 2M13 as well.   Two trains at Melksham, 14 minutes apart, to Swindon must be close to a record.   Interesting to see it can be done, and perhaps just a gentle warning of how NOT to do it if we end up with competing Go-op trains - they need to be spaced out!

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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2025, 08:57:10 »

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09:08 Swindon to Westbury due 09:49 will be cancelled.

This is due to a fault on this train.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2025, 09:52:46 »

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10:46 Westbury to Swindon due 11:31
11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:22

11:41 Swindon to Westbury due 12:22 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Zero information about any alternative ... but you are told about delay/repay.   Another micro example of the macro failure to look out for the passengers - the customers?
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2025, 10:06:21 »

Another micro example of the macro failure to look out for the passengers - the customers?

Rather than just criticise, I should offer an alternative.   The x34 bus now runs on a Sunday from Trowbridge to Chippenham, and tickets should be accepted on that and it should be included in the journey planner.  Passengers who normally travel through Melksham should be allowed to travel via Bath Spa, changing trains there, and be advised they can do so at the same price which should be offered by the online booking applications once the cancelled train is removed from them. You will note than none of this "looking after the passengers" results in extra vehicle or staff miles on the ground - it's helping people use what's already there!



Looking wider (and not just for a solution this Sunday morning) in terms of train and bus interconnection at stations, the x34 is a fascinating case.   The service runs seven days a week, daytime only; the Sunday service was revived quite recently after a gap of many years.  Evening services, provided by a competing operator, were lost a decade ago when that operator pulled out of the route.  Further study to follow ....

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2025, 06:36:04 »

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05:11 Gloucester to Southampton Central due 08:09 was 8 minutes late but is expected to be on time from Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 2.

Still connected with the Paddington train at Swindon - which looks like it might have been held back a few seconds. Good - no problem here.

The 05:11 from Gloucester in reality is a chaining together of a series of separate workings and through passengers from Gloucester to Southampton must be rare as hen's teeth.  Even the crew changes along the way. It is scheduled to stop longer than is needed purely to drop off and pick up passengers at Swindon, Chippenham, Westbury and Salisbury and paths allowing could (and has been know to) make up much more time.   Good - whilst extended station dallies are not to be encouraged, a margin of time in schedules to ensure that trains turn up and connect on time even if held up earlier in their or a previous journey makes sense - especially where though passengers at "pause" stations are a minority of passengers.
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2025, 17:05:39 »

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This is due to trespassers on the railway.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 2.

 
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17:35 Swindon to Westbury due 18:19
18:37 Westbury to Swindon due 19:21
20:14 Swindon to Westbury due 20:57
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

Facilities on the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 2.
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