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« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2025, 15:54:59 »

A special treat for Easter!

(National Rail, generally more reliable and up to date, warning of disruption till 1800)

Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Following a points failure between London Paddington and Reading some lines have now reopened.

Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal but some services will still be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:00 17/04
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« Reply #76 on: Yesterday at 17:22:02 »

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Due to a fault with the signalling system at Twyford fewer trains are able to run. Disruption is expected until 21:00 21/04.
Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
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We apologise for the disruption to your journey today.

Due to a signalling fault in the Twyford area, trains are unable to operate on the Great Western Mainline. Trains will be moved to stations where possible and hold there pending a fix to the signalling.
This is causing all kinds of problems for those returning to London following the Easter weekend with trains, particularly those coming up from the Southwest, terminating well short of London at Westbury, Taunton, Exeter and one train up from Penzance only getting as far as Plymouth!
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« Reply #77 on: Yesterday at 17:39:59 »

Unsurprisingly, Exeter to Waterloo trains are shown as ‘full and standing’. Feel for those further up the line who will have absolutely no hope of boarding.
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« Reply #78 on: Yesterday at 18:28:42 »

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Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to a fault with the signalling system at Twyford fewer trains are able to run. Disruption is expected until 23:59 21/04.
Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
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We apologise for the disruption to your journey today.

Due to a significant signalling fault in the Twyford area, trains are unable to operate on the Great Western Mainline.

Trains will be moved to stations where possible and hold there pending a fix to the signalling. Network Rail teams are on site at Thames Valley Signalling Centre and at Reading, working to resolve the issue.

This is affecting train services from Reading to Basingstoke, the West Country via Newbury Westbury and Taunton, South Wales, Cheltenham Spa and Oxford and the North Cotswolds.

Sounds like a major outage this afternoon. Nothing is leaving Paddington High Level other than the Heathrow Express
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« Reply #79 on: Yesterday at 18:57:04 »

Till the end of the day....
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« Reply #80 on: Yesterday at 19:00:58 »

See also the 'chaos at Cardiff Central' incident: https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=30170.0

Not a good Easter Monday on the railways.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #81 on: Yesterday at 20:03:53 »

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Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to a fault with the signalling system at Twyford fewer trains are able to run. Disruption is expected until 23:59 21/04.
Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be cancelled, delayed or revised.
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We apologise for the disruption to your journey today.

Due to a significant signalling fault in the Twyford area, trains are unable to operate on the Great Western Mainline.

Trains will be moved to stations where possible and hold there pending a fix to the signalling. Network Rail teams are on site at Thames Valley Signalling Centre and at Reading, working to resolve the issue.

This is affecting train services from Reading to Basingstoke, the West Country via Newbury Westbury and Taunton, South Wales, Cheltenham Spa and Oxford and the North Cotswolds.

Sounds like a major outage this afternoon. Nothing is leaving Paddington High Level other than the Heathrow Express

It doesn't have to be a major outage to stop all departures. The stranded train policy is brought in. Wherever possible trains are stopped in platforms and don't move until the problem is resolved. This is to prevent passengers self evacuating onto open railway lines.
There was a rule book alteration many years ago, a new reason for a driver to be authorised to pass a signal at danger, proceed into a platform where another train is stopped, think for example Keysham or Nailsea.

Today's 1530 BTM (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)) Paddington had a delight 2 hours at Chips and Ham, 1530 Paddington WSM is currently 222 mins late!
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« Reply #82 on: Yesterday at 21:33:48 »

"South Western Railway ticket acceptance is now revoked, due their operations being severely affected by a fatality at Putney.

Chiltern Railways ticket acceptance is now revoked"

Given that GWR (Great Western Railway) Twitter packs up and goes home at 1900 these days, what help/advice is available to travellers on a day when once again the decreptitude of the infrastructure between Reading & Paddington causes a complete meltdown?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2044029/paddington-station-live-rail-train-cancelled
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« Reply #83 on: Yesterday at 22:34:33 »

Given that GWR (Great Western Railway) Twitter packs up and goes home at 1900 these days, what help/advice is available to travellers on a day when once again the decreptitude of the infrastructure between Reading & Paddington causes a complete meltdown?
Not defending GWR here, but I don’t think there was much advice they could offer. Almost the entire service far and wide across the GWR network was shot to pieces because of this major infrastructure failure this afternoon.

Thoughts with the passengers and staff who are still stranded this evening. This really was a bad one on such a major travel day.
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« Reply #84 on: Yesterday at 22:52:58 »

Fair comments, Timmer.  Lips sealed

We had a weekend guest here in Nailsea who was inconvenienced on her journey home this afternoon by the emergency bridge work near Cardiff Central.

Altogether, not a good Bank Holiday weekend for the railways.  Roll Eyes

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #85 on: Today at 07:05:30 »

Given that GWR (Great Western Railway) Twitter packs up and goes home at 1900 these days, what help/advice is available to travellers on a day when once again the decreptitude of the infrastructure between Reading & Paddington causes a complete meltdown?
Not defending GWR here, but I don’t think there was much advice they could offer. Almost the entire service far and wide across the GWR network was shot to pieces because of this major infrastructure failure this afternoon.


That's good, because there is no defence for the railway here.

At an absolute minimum, customer service channels such as Twitter should not be closing in the early evening when these sort of (increasingly frequent) meltdowns are ongoing - it never used to close so early, then we had a spate of early closures due to "staff sickness", and since then it closes at 7pm every day - it really doesn't take long to train someone to answer Tweets, and it's a means by which customers at home/in the office can make an informed decision as to whether it's worth trying to travel.

Friends got back to Paddington last night to find the familiar carnage - few or no staff in evidence and absolutely no visible management presence to be seen. Those few staff did their best but were overwhelmed.

Families with children with long distances to travel in tears. Vulnerable older people simply not knowing what to do and not being helped.

On the infrastructure subject, I read this on another forum "GWML (Great Western Main Line) has had a huge amount of investment in it over the last decade but has become the most unreliable main line in the UK (United Kingdom). The kit on WCML (West Coast Main Line) and ECML (East Coast Main Line) is much older but doesn't suffer anywhere near as much with incidents that collapse the whole route. ORR» (Office of Rail and Road, formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) should be having an independent investigation to get to the root of the problems".

Interesting point?
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« Reply #86 on: Today at 07:24:00 »

............really couldn't make it up..........

Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to earlier engineering works not being finished on time between London Paddington and Slough fewer trains are able to run on some lines. Disruption is expected until 10:00 22/04.

Train services between London Paddington and Reading may be cancelled or delayed.
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« Reply #87 on: Today at 09:24:24 »

At an absolute minimum, customer service channels such as Twitter should not be closing in the early evening when these sort of (increasingly frequent) meltdowns are ongoing - it never used to close so early, then we had a spate of early closures due to "staff sickness", and since then it closes at 7pm every day - it really doesn't take long to train someone to answer Tweets, and it's a means by which customers at home/in the office can make an informed decision as to whether it's worth trying to travel.

In defense of anyone working on the task of fielding enquiries via social media, carrying that role out well does draw on various skills.

That aside, there's an argument in favour of the railway changing the tools they use for this. Twitter very much proved its worth for timely customer support, and it might be that a response to an individual enquiry helped several others in the process and also possibly helped staff be informed of situations.

'X' has very much changed in the way it works and is now a closed system, its content not available on the web, responses are available only to people with an account and logged in. A percentage of people who use the trains have moved away from 'X' entirely and companies who use 'X', given the general shenanigans, are starting to see a certain amount of tarnishing of their brand.

Perhaps railway managers view social media for customer support in times of disruption isn't as useful as it once was - evidenced by the fact that the hours of the day during which rail companies offer support via 'X' are shrinking, and there's less of an effort to react to events by strengthening this support in time of need.

One of the decisions to be made is whether to let this slide continue, or as an alternative, follow the users of their services to the social media that they now use. GWR (Great Western Railway) looks to be on the way to doing this, in that they've created their account on Bluesky (~35 million users of which ~7.5% are in the UK (United Kingdom)) and are using it for the time being for promotion rather than customer support.

Now, it's very difficult for an organisation to walk away from an account where they see they have a million followers, so, it would be informative to know the cost implications in using both of these two platforms in parallel for customer support - given the tools that they'll be using, the additional task would likely be a small percentage, and for a considerable gain in terms of reach. One aspect alone, the open-ness and far greater availablity of other systems, is well worth consideration.

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« Reply #88 on: Today at 09:29:42 »

It'll all be down to what the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) wants these days
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I was caught up in the situation last night, trying to catch the 1950 from Plymouth to Swindon direct, initially cancelled from Plymouth onwards when I arrived at the station on foot (about 1920) we were told to catch the 2025 to Exeter, then a service from there to Bristol and then the last train might be held for us there, or taxis etc.
In the end after the train pulled in to Plymouth (about 1944) and everyone got off I noticed at 1956 that the relevant platform departure board was now saying the 1950 to Paddington was going to leave at 1957....then we had an announcement that it was reinstated but would be leaving at about 2010 awaiting the driver....it eventually left at 2025 as the original 2025 to Exeter (coming up from Penzance) was cancelled. In the end I got to Swindon about 40 minutes late.   
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