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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2024, 08:49:36 »

24 hours after it failed on the seawall yesterday, the nine car IET (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) (802108) departed Newton Abbot a short while ago to head to North Pole depot via London Paddington.   

Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.
Any news on the other train that failed?
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« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2024, 09:25:29 »

Years ago, I and others doubted that the IETs (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) would cope with the well known severe conditions at Dawlish.
Supporters of the new units assured as that coping with conditions at Dawlish was an "essential requirement" and that the new trains would be fine !
When this was found not to be the case, one respected member stated that the "essential requirement" meant that the decorative finish should withstand the conditions, and not that the trains should actually function in bad weather !

ANOTHER victory for my crystal ball  Smiley


I don't know the materials involved but, what are we, six years in, something's unhappy. How similar is the LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) fleet, and how are they doing? They seem to be under a different exterior cleaning regime though.

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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2024, 07:20:34 »

Stops at Dawlish are being withdrawn from IET (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) services this evening due to forecasted severe weather.
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2024, 08:23:52 »

Stops at Dawlish are being withdrawn from IET (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) services this evening due to forecasted severe weather.

I appreciate the need for caution after last weekend's events, but given the bad weather isn't expected to arrive until this evening, this, and other alterations this morning, seem a bit unnecessary?

05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central due 11:19
05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central due 11:19 will no longer call at Dawlish but will call additionally at Tiverton Parkway.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2024, 09:59:15 »


Dawlish: Lifts out of order
The (NEW) lifts will be out of order between Platform 1 and Platform 1 from now until further notice at Dawlish station.
Last Updated:04/10/2024 17:40

0540 Pz/ Cdff ( IET (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))) not calling Dawlish on the face of it seemed over cautious, start of winds approx 20 mph SE today take some hours to build up to a threat to these failure prone trains at and a few hours either side of high( especially Spring) tides with S/SE winds of above about 15 mph.


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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2024, 12:01:21 »

£80 million spent on a new sea wall........... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2024, 12:09:32 »

Just wait until this Wednesday then.....say hello to Kirk for me
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« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2024, 12:14:24 »


Dawlish: Lifts out of order
The (NEW) lifts will be out of order between Platform 1 and Platform 1 from now until further notice at Dawlish station.
Last Updated:04/10/2024 17:40

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One day I must get to Dawlish...

If the platform 1 lift is suffering from its exposed position, it was suggested during the planning consultation that the the lift shaft elements of the design be rotated so that they had their backs to the sea.

As built, the footbridge is unroofed, the lift entrance is facing south west - side on to the sea and in a hostile environment that could have been mitigated.

For good measure, the ridgeback top of the parapet on the seaward side isn't ideal and nor is the fact that airflow over the parapet will then interact with the canopy above the lift entrance, which is pitched upwards to catch it, so the lift entrance may be seeing a regular hosing with salt spray.

Perhaps, in exposed positions, include consultancy advice from a shetland pony. The one in the photo below had its back to a clear run of sea all the way from Nova Scotia.

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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2024, 13:04:58 »

One day I must get to Dawlish...

Greetings *from* Dawlish.  A bit blowy today - some pictures to follow.
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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2024, 15:22:35 »


Perhaps, in exposed positions, include consultancy advice from a shetland pony. The one in the photo below had its back to a clear run of sea all the way from Nova Scotia.

Mark



I digress............but every time I see a Shetland Pony, this springs to mind .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfccMaskBWk
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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2024, 19:02:25 »

IETs (Intercity Express Train - the now official name for the replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) not calling at Dawlish this evening.

From GWR (Great Western Railway):

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Due to forecasted severe weather at Dawlish fewer trains are able to run on all lines.

Impact:
Train services running through this station will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice:
Due to expected bad weather in South Devon this evening, as precaution we will be limiting the number of trains calling at Dawlish station.

Only a few trains will be affected, but if you are on a train that is, please adhere to the following advice:

Customers on trains from London Paddington, or north of Dawlish should change at Exeter St. David's where connections are available.

For those travelling from Cornwall and other stations south of Dawlish, please change at Newton Abbot for connections.

We apologise for the inconvenience this evening.

TRAIN PLAN:
The following Up trains will not call at Dawlish:
2M72
2U32
2E30

The following Down trains will not call at Dawlish:
1C89
2C87
1C84.
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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2024, 21:42:04 »

Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old  Roll Eyes

You cant expect a new train to be as good as the old ones, in either water resistance or in passenger comfort.
This is called progress..
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2024, 09:00:58 »

Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old  Roll Eyes

You cant expect a new train to be as good as the old ones, in either water resistance or in passenger comfort.
This is called progress..

I'm not so sure - and it so much depends on your definition of "good".  We are headed off topic and so I have quoted you - and asked opinions - at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/29267
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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2024, 13:33:01 »

Just wait until this Wednesday then.....say hello to Kirk for me
We didn't hear much about ex-hurricane Kirk, once it turned up. Which is rather odd, given how close an escape we had, though such news media insularity is quite normal. Kirk's northern edge was sat along the French coast much of Wednesday, and beyond it large rain totals were dropped on already soggy land. The heaviest rain was just outside UK (United Kingdom) rain radar range, and that gave month-sized rain totals and has caused a lot of flooding.

So if Kirk had been any more than 100 miles to the north, we'd have really noticed it. You can still (just) see Wednesday's rain radar from the Met Office, and a snapshot is attached.
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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2024, 17:49:47 »

Interesting comment on Kirk.  I had assumed that the deluge we had on Tuesday afternoon / evening had come from it.
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