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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2024, 19:25:47 »

When you're getting a parcel  sent to you you can track its progress. I was wondering why something similar wasn't part of this story -  allowing the recipient to check up on the status of their "delivery".

There is a Passenger Assistance app (and web equivalent), which started in 2021, but it only does bookings. You can change a booking for a new one, but you still only get an e-mail of confirmation.

I guess that was a reasonable start, but pretty soon the lack of interactive features will look like a missed opportunity. Surely it should be possible to provide feedback showing what is recorded in internal systems. Plus, of course, a big red button to signal that the required assistance has not showed up!
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2024, 21:22:25 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page)

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Grey-Thompson urges severe penalties after train ordeal

Train companies which fail to help disabled passengers should face "severe penalties", Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson has said.

It comes after the 11-time Paralympic champion complained she had been forced to "crawl off" a train at London King's Cross station when assistance failed to arrive for 20 minutes.

Operator LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) is investigating the incident, which took place on Monday night.

Speaking to BBC News, Baroness Grey-Thompson called on the government to "make a commitment to bringing about real change", as her experience had "woken up a lot of people".

She also warned that at the "current rate of change" there would not be step-free access in rail stations in the UK (United Kingdom) for 100 years.
'Chaotic' booking website

"That's just not good for anybody," she said. "We've got to be a bit more creative in finding solutions."

The Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee estimated in 2022 that it would take about 100 years to make all UK rail stations step-free, external to new-build standards, costing at least £3.75bn.

On Monday night, Baroness Grey-Thompson boarded the 19:45 train from Leeds rather than the 19:15 on which she had booked assistance. But she said staff who helped her board knew she would be getting off in London.

She called for a system where "missed assists" - where a staff member does not arrive to help a disabled passenger - can be easily reported to the Office of Rail and Road, rather than the current lengthy system of suing for compensation.

"We're at a point now - and I've never been quite in this place before - where there needs to be severe penalties on the train companies for failure because that might be the only thing that changes it," she said.

She also said the website passengers use for booking assisted travel for all train firms was "chaotic" and rail staff need training on disabled peoples' "legal right to turn up and go" on any journey.

The Office of Rail and Road, which enforces accessible travel policies - a condition of station operator licences - says that passengers can turn up at any station, external and request assistance from a member of staff, providing there is availability.

'Scary' backlash

Baroness Grey-Thompson also called for level-boarding trains - where there is no gap between the carriage and platform edge - to feature in legislation coming soon to Parliament, which aims to establish new public body Great British Railways.

The Disability Discrimination Act 2005 required that all trains were to be made accessible by 2020, but many carriages still do not comply with the rules.

Since first speaking about her train ordeal on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, external, Baroness Grey-Thompson said she had heard from "quite a lot of people", including wheelchair users who have "had to get themselves off trains" like she did.

"There's always a worry that you're not going to be met," she said of assistance at stations. "Sitting in the doorway shouting to people on the platform, trying to wave to get someone's attention, is stuff that I do, yes."

She said she had also received some "hate mail" which had left her shaken. "It is shocking and a little bit scary - they're not at the level where they're reportable to the police but there's a level of threat that makes them extremely uncomfortable," she said.

ParalympicsGB's chief Penny Briscoe said what happened was a "disgrace".

Earlier this week Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said Baroness Grey-Thompson's experience was "unacceptable" and there "should be a basic requirement" for accessible facilities on all public transport.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2024, 21:26:24 »

I disagree with Tanni over the Passenger Assist website - it really isn't 'chaotic', but as disabilities vary, there ought to be an easy-to-understand guide as to what you can expect from using it (& when). It does work however, every time that I've used it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2024, 16:57:52 »

'My traumatic journey to London in my wheelchair'

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A woman has spoken of her "traumatic" train journey to London in a wheelchair, saying she was left stranded on a train.

Jacqui Darlington, who has been using a wheelchair since June, is one of a number of people to contact the BBC after Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson revealed that she was forced to "crawl off" a train at London's Kings Cross.

The former Paralympian's experience prompted others with a disability to share their stories of the challenges they face when travelling by train.

Network Rail said the situation was "not good enough", adding it is "determined to work with all train operators to improve".

Ms Darlington told the BBC that despite booking passenger assistance, she was "forgotten" and "left unable to get off the train" when it entered Kings Cross.

With no one there to help her, the train left the station with her still onboard.

"The fear, panic and anxiety I felt in those few minutes was unbelievable and is something that I cannot put into words," she said.

Ms Darlington, who runs a group for adults with additional needs, was helped to return to Kings Cross but said the whole process was "traumatic".

"My journey using my wheelchair to London had me in tears until I reached my destination," she said.

Dr Ali Carre told the BBC that "despite being fiercely independent" as a wheelchair user, repeated problems travelling on trains have "totally put me off train travel".

Dr Carre described how, on one occasion, the booked passenger assistance service failed to meet her at Reading.

The retired psychiatrist said this meant she was left "dragging myself off the train and onto platform with my wheelchair upside down".

"I really hurt my hand and arm, which ruined my holiday as a manual wheelchair user," she said.

Dr Carre also described problems at Paddington station, including being left on a train which was suddenly taken out of service.

All the other passengers left, said Dr Carre, but she was left alone.

"No one came to help," she said. "I started pushing the emergency button for more than 15 mins before someone came."

Kathleen Hogg said her family has experienced problems "many many times".

"My son has cerebral palsy and is quadriplegic and is quite a large man, we are in our 70's and are unable to lift him, so as a consequence we have to book assistance," Ms Hogg said.

She added that problems usually occur when the family heads to London's West End at Christmas to see a show.

"We make sure we book ahead and inform station staff," Ms Hogg said, but added that passenger assistance services are often not ready to meet them.

Ms Hogg said this leads to "a stressful situation".

"I usually hold the doors so that the train cannot leave and my husband gets off to seek a rail person, often you feel a nuisance," she said.

Some station staff "can be really nice", but "you are made to feel a thorn in their side," she added.

'It’s not good enough'
A Network Rail spokesperson said: “We’re striving to provide an accessible railway for everyone, yet the way ‘Passenger Assist’ let Baroness Grey-Thompson down on Monday night at King’s Cross station, and news of others poor experiences shows us, and the industry as a whole, that we have much more to do.

“While well over 90% of passenger assistance requests made last year were completed to the letter, we strive to do better and recognise the anxiety and distress caused when people are left without help.

"It’s not good enough. We’re determined to work with all train operators to improve this vital area of our work so that everyone can have confidence in being able to use the railway.”

Improving disabled access to UK (United Kingdom)’s public transport ‘almost impossible’

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When Tanni Grey-Thompson was left stranded at London’s King’s Cross station on her way to the opening ceremony of the Paralympic Games in Paris this week, she had to crawl on to the platform.

Lady Grey-Thompson, a former Paralympic athlete and crossbench peer, said she and other disabled passengers frequently suffered humiliating incidents travelling by train. “The system is just not working,” she said.

Rather than being scrutinised by a Public Bill Committee, the Government has opted for a Committee of the Whole House.

It means the law to re-nationalise the railways, a long-held demand of union bosses, can pass weeks and possibly even months quicker.

The fast-track measure is usually reserved for emergency legislation, such as during the Covid-19 pandemic when it was used to bring in social distancing rules speedily. It is also used following budgets so that tax and spending changes can happen quickly.

Nor did apologies from the train company’s managing director and a senior figure at the Department for Transport (DfT» (Department for Transport - about)) ameliorate her. “It’s like, ‘and … ?’” said Grey-Thompson, a multiple gold medallist. “They are nice people but it doesn’t mean much … it just happens to so many other people.”

The Equality Act and the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities mandate equal access to transport for disabled people.

But research bears out Grey-Thompson’s suspicion that neither are being implemented on the ground: more than half of people with complex disabilities find public transport inadequate, with issues including overcrowding, a lack of staff support and negative attitudes from staff and other passengers.

Mike Brace CBE, a former chair of the British Paralympic Association and a member of the government’s Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee (DPTAC), said the UK’s public transport system was so “sprawling” that improving access for disabled people was almost impossible.

Brace, who sits on DPTAC’s rail working group, said the DfT took feedback from his group seriously but the implementation of their advice was almost impossible considering the diverse nature of the transport system.

“There are a number of good schemes going to help disabled people access the rail network but when there are 14 rail companies who need to implement those changes, there is an issue,” he said.

“The problem is the same with taxi refusals for guide dogs and wheelchairs, or airlines breaking wheelchairs when they’re in transit.”

Lucy Webster, a disability advocate, agreed that a lack of scrutiny and accountability of transport operators was a key issue, leading to ineffective complaint processes and fatigue among disabled passengers.

“There’s no regulator we can call that has any power, so why would companies care when they can get away with it?” said Webster, the author of The View From Down Here.

“The only way we can challenge these failures is through the law, and that is time-consuming, takes energy, understanding of process and more things that are simply not accessible to a lot of disabled people,” she said.

The Office of Rail and Road is the regulator responsible for monitoring and enforcing their implementation of accessible transport policies across the UK.

They do not set the overall strategy or possible interventions – those are set by the DfT – but can issue penalties if an operator defaults on their licence.

“Issuing penalties is rare,” said a spokesperson. “We aim to be fair and only do this when absolutely necessary, after having increased monitoring and meeting with operators to address the issues.”

The spokesperson said that the current situation was not ideal. “Improving accessibility for disabled users requires an industry-wide change in culture to make sure processes are followed and the needs of disabled users are consistently taken into account,” they added.

Emma Vogelmann, the head of policy at Transport for All, agreed that “systemic issues” blight the entire UK transport network for disabled people and said that “despite numerous complaints, systemic change is just not happening”.

Vogelmann believes a fundamental problem is the exclusion of disabled people from infrastructure and policy discussions, creating an echo chamber in which disabled people’s experiences are not at the forefront of anyone’s mind when public transport contracts and regulation are written.

“Rail is particularly problematic, with disabled people often facing barriers and fearing inadequate assistance,” she said. However, she said she was “cautiously optimistic” about potential improvements under the new government and operators.

Webster believes attitudes towards travel are informed by attitudes in wider society. “When I travel, I’m constantly asked questions that show no one, not staff or the public, think I should be out of the house at all. ‘Why are you out so late?’ is a common question I’m asked when on public transport.”

Harriet Edwards, the head of policy at the deafblind charity, Sense, said all these problems create the perfect storm in which the government continues to fail in its responsibility to ensure transport operators comply with the law.

“Despite the rhetoric, there has been little action to change the situation on the ground for disabled people,” she said. “The lack of policy prioritisation and funding is a significant barrier to making the necessary changes.”

This, she said, was economically unjustifiable. “Making the transport system accessible could generate £72.4bn a year in economic benefits,” she said. “Accessible transport helps tackle loneliness and isolation, with significant health and social care impacts.”

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2024, 13:51:56 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62j810dlnmo

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Paralympian leads effort to improve travel for disabled people

Paralympic champion Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson is to lead a new group of experts tasked with improving air travel for disabled passengers.

The Aviation Accessibility Task and Finish Group, announced by the government, will work to make flying accessible for all "from booking to baggage claim".

"For too long, disabled passengers haven’t had the standard of assistance and service they need," said Transport Secretary Louise Haigh.

Headline just says "travel' but main article confirms air travel
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