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« Reply #120 on: August 08, 2024, 10:34:48 »

We're hearing a formal offer to ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) is likely to be made during the middle of next week.
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« Reply #121 on: August 08, 2024, 11:10:54 »

We're hearing a formal offer to ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) is likely to be made during the middle of next week.

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« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2024, 03:07:13 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9rxdrj713o

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The train drivers' union and the government are hopeful a deal can be struck to bring an end the long-running strike action, the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) understands, as talks over pay are expected to take place on Wednesday.

The negotiations between representatives from Aslef and the Department for Transport will aim to resolve the pay dispute between drivers and train companies in England.

A breakthrough would herald the end of industrial action which has spanned more than two years and saw drivers stage 18 strikes and take part in several overtime bans, leading to cancelled services.

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« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2024, 13:25:55 »

Reading in another forum that talks have been adjourned with no new offer having been made.

Bruvver Whelan was asked if there had been a new offer as he was leaving the building and replied "not at this moment in time"
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« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2024, 14:14:47 »

Reading in another forum that talks have been adjourned with no new offer having been made.

Bruvver Whelan was asked if there had been a new offer as he was leaving the building and replied "not at this moment in time"

Resuming at 1430…… apparently.  Certain issues needed clarifying (like who’s expenses were covering lunch but that might be a vicious rumour).
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« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2024, 14:54:25 »

Reading in another forum that talks have been adjourned with no new offer having been made.

Bruvver Whelan was asked if there had been a new offer as he was leaving the building and replied "not at this moment in time"

Resuming at 1430…… apparently.  Certain issues needed clarifying (like who’s expenses were covering lunch but that might be a vicious rumour).

Beer & sandwiches?
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« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2024, 15:54:55 »

Reading in another forum that talks have been adjourned with no new offer having been made.

Bruvver Whelan was asked if there had been a new offer as he was leaving the building and replied "not at this moment in time"

Resuming at 1430…… apparently.  Certain issues needed clarifying (like who’s expenses were covering lunch but that might be a vicious rumour).

Beer & sandwiches?

Be serious. Champagne and caviar!
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« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2024, 17:22:27 »

Personally, beer and sandwiches for lunch would be fine with me - whether at Number 10 or elsewhere.  Smiley
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« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2024, 17:58:15 »

ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) said that their offer is likely this time next week
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« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2024, 18:19:30 »

ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) said that their offer is likely this time next week

Offer received…… and I can’t see members rejecting it.
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« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2024, 18:27:14 »

Indeed....
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/aslef-train-drivers-agree-deal-that-could-end-rail-strikes-after-two-years-of-chaos
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« Reply #131 on: August 14, 2024, 20:17:33 »

Excellent. We shouldn't have to add '2025' to the thread title.

Unless of course the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) find an excuse for more action of course.
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« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2024, 20:21:20 »

The RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) are still negotiating their 2024 claim.
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« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2024, 21:18:07 »

ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) said that their offer is likely this time next week

Offer received…… and I can’t see members rejecting it.

nor can I...from The BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page)

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Train drivers will vote on a new pay deal aimed at ending long-running strike action.

It follows talks between representatives from Aslef and the Department for Transport that aimed to resolve the pay dispute between drivers and train companies in England.

The new offer is for a 5% backdated pay rise for 2022/23, a 4.75% rise for 23/24, and 4.5% increase for 24/25.

Aslef said the new deal was a "no-strings" offer, meaning it’s not conditional on changes to working practices.

The proposed deal could end the long running train drivers’ dispute if members accept it in a vote.

More than a dozen England based train companies have been affected by strike action.

Aslef leader Mick Whelan insisted the new government had not rolled over and given into all his demands.

“If it was everything I wanted it wouldn't have been this deal it would have been a higher deal, more representative of the higher cost of inflation," he told the BBC.

A breakthrough would herald the end of industrial action which has spanned more than two years and saw drivers stage 18 strikes and take part in several overtime bans, leading to cancelled services.

Under the new Labour government, senior officials began direct pay talks with Aslef bosses last month.

Industrial action has continued since Aslef last rejected a pay offer back in April 2023. More recently the union’s tactic has been to spread walk-outs over several days, with different operators affected on each day.

The package included successive pay rises of 4%, which the Rail Delivery Group, which represents train companies, said would bring the average annual pay for a driver to £65,000.

However, a significant point of contention, was the conditions attached.

Train companies and the Conservative government argued that changes to ways of working, for example to training and rosters, were necessary to make the railway function more reliably and save money.

They claimed hard-pressed taxpayers are having to contribute millions each week to keep services running.

However, Aslef argued drivers were being asked to sacrifice too much in exchange for too low a wage rise.

The dispute was at a standstill for a year, before signs of progress in May. But the general election was called before there could be a resolution.

Under the previous government, negotiations were conducted by the Rail Delivery Group, but ministers have had to approve any pay offer though, as the government in effect took control of the railway during the Covid pandemic.

When the Labour government was elected in July, transport secretary Louise Haigh said she was "committed to resetting industrial relations".

The Rail Delivery Group has since been removed from negotiations, with Department for Transport officials leading talks instead in July.

The Aslef union says it has more than 21,000 members and represents 96% of all the train drivers in England, Scotland, and Wales, where it is organised.

In a separate dispute, train drivers working for publicly-run Scotrail are currently being balloted for strike action over pay.
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« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2024, 21:34:27 »

Out of interest, what exactly were drivers being asked to sacrifice under the previous proposal?
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