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« Reply #301 on: November 29, 2023, 11:00:05 » |
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I think this is the real issue now and it's a question I've seen on other forums and elsewhere. 4 incidents in 10 days and the question is moving from whether the railway in this area is at all reliable to "is it safe?" |
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« Reply #302 on: November 29, 2023, 11:28:51 » |
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That article followed Paul Clifton's TV piece on Tuesday(?), rather than after today's cracked points.
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« Reply #304 on: November 29, 2023, 16:03:22 » |
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Based on its investigation, ORR» will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action. Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ... |
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« Reply #305 on: November 29, 2023, 16:46:19 » |
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Based on its investigation, ORR» will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action. Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ... I think most people are living in hope of proper maintenance that keeps the trains running and the customers safe, at least as a starting point? |
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« Reply #306 on: November 29, 2023, 22:59:30 » |
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Based on its investigation, ORR» will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action. Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ... The danger is they get told to merely run less trains? |
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« Reply #307 on: November 29, 2023, 23:41:43 » |
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Based on its investigation, ORR» will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action. Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ... The danger is they get told to merely run less trains? Yes, I know - that thought concerns me. I have spent the evening in the audience at Dan Okey's talk to WWRUG» and listening to vocal members of the audience complaining about overcrowding as it is. And at times, the audience is certainly right, the supply of enough trains of enough carriages on them in inadequate. |
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« Reply #308 on: November 30, 2023, 06:32:09 » |
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Based on its investigation, ORR» will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action. Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ... The danger is they get told to merely run less trains? It is not as easy to say Network Rail just run less trains, the DfT» through its contract with the ToC set the service level which the ORR regulate, the only way to run less trains is through a timetable change which the DfT, ORR and TOC▸ 's all have an input, if the TOC sees a reduction in revenue they will want compensation. NR» often request "disruptive" access from the ToC's the TOC's can decline this. I wonder what additional access has been requested to carryout the repairs to this recent broken rail, the other aspect effecting the repair could be the cold weather |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #309 on: November 30, 2023, 07:02:42 » |
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Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.
BBC» London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
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« Reply #310 on: November 30, 2023, 08:23:41 » |
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Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.
BBC» London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
And just to add to the ongoing fun & games, now this...... Alterations to services between Slough and London Paddington Due to a points failure between Slough and London Paddington some lines towards London Paddington are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 11:00 30/11. |
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« Reply #311 on: November 30, 2023, 10:49:32 » |
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Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.
BBC» London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
And just to add to the ongoing fun & games, now this...... Alterations to services between Slough and London Paddington Due to a points failure between Slough and London Paddington some lines towards London Paddington are blocked. Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 11:00 30/11. It looks like there was some sort of issue between EAL▸ and PAD» , e.g. the 07:16 EL service from MAI▸ took 75 minutes to travel between those two stations: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L79515/2023-11-30/detailedEDIT: I've just seen this blog post from IanVisits, the delays were due to a broken down train at PAD: https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/observances-of-the-elizabeth-line-problems-this-morning-67829/ |
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« Reply #312 on: November 30, 2023, 11:09:51 » |
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A blog from IansVisits on the issues with the Elizabeth Line this morning, which bit Woolwich quite badly. A cogent observation that there was suppressed demand for travel there, now met by the new line, but when that stalls, the legacy transport systems - the DLR▸ and South Eastern Railways, struggle. Probably not helped by South Eastern run in a lackluster way under the command of the DfT» who rather than continue to build their own market, saw the opening of the Elizabeth line as an opportunity to cut services and alter service patterns to break through routes. Mark https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/observances-of-the-elizabeth-line-problems-this-morning-67829/ |
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« Reply #313 on: December 01, 2023, 11:58:00 » |
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Another day, another failure......
A fault with the signalling system at Iver means some lines from London Paddington towards Reading are currently blocked.
As a result, Elizabeth line services that run between London Paddington and Slough may be delayed by up to 25 minutes or revised.
Disruption is expected until 13:00.
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« Reply #314 on: December 01, 2023, 16:48:43 » |
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Delays to services between Maidenhead and Twyford
Due to a safety inspection of the track between Maidenhead and Twyford trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards Twyford.
Train services running through these stations will be delayed by up to 20 minutes. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Last Updated:01/12/2023 16:36 Fortunately there are a number of cancellations which will help thin out the service... |
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