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Author Topic: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2018  (Read 22476 times)
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« Reply #720 on: November 27, 2018, 09:01:25 »

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1067340871799119872?s=21

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« Reply #721 on: November 27, 2018, 10:52:11 »

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Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised. Acton Main Line will not be served. Disruption is expected until 11:00 27/11.

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Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised. Acton Main Line will not be served. Disruption is expected until 18:00 27/11.

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« Reply #722 on: November 27, 2018, 10:58:57 »

It was an empty train leaving West Ealing sidings.  Went past a red light and derailed on catch points.

Now then II.  Catch Points derail a train running back in the wrong direction and are usually fitted where there are steep gradients (but mostly gone now due to the removal of unfitted freight trains).  Trap Points deliberately derail a train in the forward direction..... Shocked
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« Reply #723 on: November 27, 2018, 11:00:42 »

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Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised. Acton Main Line will not be served. Disruption is expected until 11:00 27/11.

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Train services running to and from these stations are returning to normal but some services may still be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised. Acton Main Line will not be served. Disruption is expected until 18:00 27/11.

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So both rush hours crocked. Wonder what the driver involved has got to say for himself?
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« Reply #724 on: November 27, 2018, 12:59:05 »

Now then II.  Catch Points derail a train running back in the wrong direction and are usually fitted where there are steep gradients (but mostly gone now due to the removal of unfitted freight trains).  Trap Points deliberately derail a train in the forward direction..... Shocked

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So both rush hours crocked. Wonder what the driver involved has got to say for himself?

Knowing the driver concerned, who’s a thoroughly nice chap, I expect he will be absolutely gutted that he made a mistake.
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« Reply #725 on: November 27, 2018, 13:34:50 »

Now then II.  Catch Points derail a train running back in the wrong direction and are usually fitted where there are steep gradients (but mostly gone now due to the removal of unfitted freight trains).  Trap Points deliberately derail a train in the forward direction..... Shocked

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So both rush hours crocked. Wonder what the driver involved has got to say for himself?

Knowing the driver concerned, who’s a thoroughly nice chap, I expect he will be absolutely gutted that he made a mistake.

.....one would hope not as gutted as the aforementioned West Coast carriage.

Disruption now forecast to be over by 1430, which is better news.
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« Reply #726 on: November 27, 2018, 14:38:51 »

Disruption now forecast to be over by 1430, which is better news.

And less encouragingly, now 16:30 though actual disruption being reported on JourneyCheck does seem minimal.
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« Reply #727 on: November 27, 2018, 15:33:26 »

Disruption now forecast to be over by 1430, which is better news.

And less encouragingly, now 16:30 though actual disruption being reported on JourneyCheck does seem minimal.

Hmmm ... Can't help wondering if this (and earlier cancellations) are from the same "operational incident" ... looks like 2 diagrams not running in the evening peak.

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19:52 Reading to London Paddington due 20:46 will be cancelled.
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« Reply #728 on: November 27, 2018, 15:43:25 »

Disruption now forecast to be over by 1430, which is better news.

And less encouragingly, now 16:30 though actual disruption being reported on JourneyCheck does seem minimal.

Hmmm ... Can't help wondering if this (and earlier cancellations) are from the same "operational incident" ... looks like 2 diagrams not running in the evening peak.

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19:52 Reading to London Paddington due 20:46 will be cancelled.
This is due to an operational incident.

Trains are being talked past one signal on the up relief so it may be a case of thinning out the service to reduce overall delays.
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« Reply #729 on: November 27, 2018, 16:13:28 »

.......delays now back to 1830!
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« Reply #730 on: November 27, 2018, 16:40:32 »

A massive moan on twitter this morning, some blaming GWR (Great Western Railway) as a company for their mistake, others thinking GWR are responsible for running the tracks and signalling.
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« Reply #731 on: November 27, 2018, 17:58:31 »



As this is a electric traction unit ……….. you could say the unit has a earth fault  Grin

Derailment like this don't happen too often these days, used to be quite common in BR (British Rail(ways)) days. 

Whilst this will lead to some disruption to passengers due to the unit not being available (for a while) at least the railways safety system protected everyone for serious injury … or worse.
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« Reply #732 on: November 27, 2018, 18:02:40 »

A massive moan on twitter this morning, some blaming GWR (Great Western Railway) as a company for their mistake, others thinking GWR are responsible for running the tracks and signalling.

It would appear that GWR's Driver is responsible, and GWR are accountable...………...but no doubt the bruvvers are marshalling already to blame the management, the Government, the weather and anyone/thing else who springs to mind.

"Massive moans" are hardly surprising from those who are delayed and inconvenienced (once again) by the chaotic nature of our railways...…………..but I'm sure you didn't mean that in a deprecating way towards its customers?
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« Reply #733 on: November 27, 2018, 18:06:09 »

A massive moan on twitter this morning, some blaming GWR (Great Western Railway) as a company for their mistake, others thinking GWR are responsible for running the tracks and signalling.

It would appear that GWR's Driver is responsible, and GWR are accountable...………...but no doubt the bruvvers are marshalling already to blame the management, the Government, the weather and anyone/thing else who springs to mind.

"Massive moans" are hardly surprising from those who are delayed and inconvenienced (once again) by the chaotic nature of our railways...…………..but I'm sure you didn't mean that in a deprecating way towards its customers?

Thats a bit unfair TG.  We don't yet know the facts behind the derailment (there could be several reasons not of the drivers making).  When carrying out investigations into such incidents you are always taught 'never assume anything'.
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« Reply #734 on: November 27, 2018, 18:23:17 »

A massive moan on twitter this morning, some blaming GWR (Great Western Railway) as a company for their mistake, others thinking GWR are responsible for running the tracks and signalling.

It would appear that GWR's Driver is responsible, and GWR are accountable...………...but no doubt the bruvvers are marshalling already to blame the management, the Government, the weather and anyone/thing else who springs to mind.

"Massive moans" are hardly surprising from those who are delayed and inconvenienced (once again) by the chaotic nature of our railways...…………..but I'm sure you didn't mean that in a deprecating way towards its customers?

Thats a bit unfair TG.  We don't yet know the facts behind the derailment (there could be several reasons not of the drivers making).  When carrying out investigations into such incidents you are always taught 'never assume anything'.

That's why I said "It would appear", rather than presenting it as a fact, but I do look forward to a statement from GWR confirming all the facts and what caused the SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger - very bad!).
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