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« Reply #585 on: October 17, 2018, 10:11:48 »

National Rail live departures from Didcot  is now showing hourly trains to Paddington from 1230. Is this likely to be real?
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« Reply #586 on: October 17, 2018, 10:13:47 »

Another example where having more diversionary routes would help when it comes to managing events like this.  E.g. via High Wycombe to Bourne End?
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« Reply #587 on: October 17, 2018, 10:20:49 »

National rail enquiries now says disruption until end of day rather than the midday it mentioned earlier.

The disruption between Reading and Wokingham making things a lot worse is also quite key. At least usually there is this route as backup but judging by the crowds around platforms 4,5,6 there are delays and cancellations on that line. I had to get to Wokingham but the bus option looked the much preferable means of transport!
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« Reply #588 on: October 17, 2018, 10:24:44 »

Another example where having more diversionary routes would help when it comes to managing events like this.  E.g. via High Wycombe to Bourne End?

Money no object, of course.
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« Reply #589 on: October 17, 2018, 10:27:52 »

Wouldn't an in service IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) have done the damage if the wires themselves were faulty?

I think it's moving towards a faulty pan on the test train personally.

Its not unheard off that the Pan that rips the wires down was not the faulty Pan, it could have been several trains earlier with the damage to the OverHead - Line Equipment (OHLE (Over-Head Line Equipment (electrification via catenary))) getting progressively worse.  This is why video from previous trains is checked in the post-mortem

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« Reply #590 on: October 17, 2018, 10:35:20 »

yep, but still not the fault of Network Rail (NR» (Network Rail - home page)).

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« Reply #591 on: October 17, 2018, 10:37:58 »

yep, but still not the fault of NR» (Network Rail - home page).

Still could be....
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« Reply #592 on: October 17, 2018, 10:45:57 »

Article by the Independent's travel writer Simon Calder:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-paddington-travel-latest-train-station-closed-great-western-railway-heathrow-express-tfl-rail-a8587596.html

Which he linked to his latest tweet:

Paddington closure.
Confirmed: a Hitachi test train shredded 500m of overhead line.
Train maker says: "We are taking today very seriously, a full and thorough investigation is taking place to identify the cause.”
Standstill. Waterloo-Reading also disrupted
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« Reply #593 on: October 17, 2018, 10:50:24 »

Another example where having more diversionary routes would help when it comes to managing events like this.  E.g. via High Wycombe to Bourne End?

The new link to Marylebone has come in very useful for Oxford/Didcot/Cotswold Line passengers.  Not that punters from Bicester, Haddenham and High Wycombe joining already full trains will have thanked them for it.  I’ve heard reports of people joining trains at Bicester to Oxford so they could get a seat when it went back!
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« Reply #594 on: October 17, 2018, 10:58:12 »

The "tweet the Manager" session of Chiltern began and ended today to apologise for the overcrowding today. They weren't without their own problems earlier this morning around Wembley.

Paddington to South Ruislip also cancelled of course ...
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« Reply #595 on: October 17, 2018, 11:20:23 »

There are now two threads running on this.....from the Electrification ongoing thread

I’m hearing reports (unconfirmed) that the pantograph was raised at 105mph in an area where it is not tentioned enough for that to happen.  There are specific rules locations where you can raise on the move at speed.

So, driver error is a possibility.
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« Reply #596 on: October 17, 2018, 11:25:37 »

That would do it!
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« Reply #597 on: October 17, 2018, 11:28:01 »

Simon Calder has just been interviewed at Paddington and summed it up quite aptly - electrification - a project running years late, hundreds of millions of £ overspent - brand new (allegedly) high tech trains which simply don't seem to be up to it a year after their introduction, and the whole system collapsing for (probably) 24 hours and more due to one incident.

No evidence of any contingencies for customers, and even the suggestion of going via Waterloo this morning is scuppered by signal failures.

Overpriced, overcrowded, unreliable, uncaring, unfit for purpose.

The next time people ask themselves why people prefer travelling by car, or indeed virtually any alternative to the railways, remember last night and today.
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« Reply #598 on: October 17, 2018, 11:29:35 »

I’ve heard reports of people joining trains at Bicester to Oxford so they could get a seat when it went back!

yep, me too today. Worth an extra 30minutes to get a seat!
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« Reply #599 on: October 17, 2018, 11:38:46 »

I’ve heard reports of people joining trains at Bicester to Oxford so they could get a seat when it went back!

yep, me too today. Worth an extra 30minutes to get a seat!
You might find you have a few more extra permanent customers using this line to London after last night/today.
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