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« Reply #150 on: July 14, 2016, 16:48:18 »

That's the problem with using Google Play at weekends.
Oh, I'd heard that the signalling had been forcibly upgraded to Windows 10 without the signallers' consent...
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« Reply #151 on: July 18, 2016, 08:59:00 »

..........looks like summer has belatedly arrived and will continue throughout the week........no doubt with the perennial annual delays/cancellations due to "poor rail conditions"  Sad
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« Reply #152 on: July 18, 2016, 10:09:20 »

Yes, I'm sure it will be a test for the infrastructure.  As soon as I saw the forecast I thought of you ready to pounce at the keyboard, TG.  Wink
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« Reply #153 on: July 18, 2016, 14:17:01 »

Yes, I'm sure it will be a test for the infrastructure.  As soon as I saw the forecast I thought of you ready to pounce at the keyboard, TG.  Wink

...........Bless you for thinking of me, but I'm a bit old to pounce these days! ............would be interested in any initiatives that have been undertaken/are underway to address this apparently intractable although entirely predictable issue though which causes problems every year?
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« Reply #154 on: July 18, 2016, 16:50:26 »

.....well don't forget that they have had the forthought to paint the key turnouts rails white in a vain attempt to keep them from expanding from heat and then suffering from 'switch creep' and subsequently failing... Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #155 on: July 18, 2016, 17:09:40 »

.....well don't forget that they have had the forthought to paint the key turnouts rails white in a vain attempt to keep them from expanding from heat and then suffering from 'switch creep' and subsequently failing... Roll Eyes Tongue
Could you expand on the word "vain" for a non-technical audience?
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« Reply #156 on: July 18, 2016, 17:54:41 »

.....well don't forget that they have had the forthought to paint the key turnouts rails white in a vain attempt to keep them from expanding from heat and then suffering from 'switch creep' and subsequently failing... Roll Eyes Tongue
Could you expand on the word "vain" for a non-technical audience?

Its not technical at all.......

Vain
producing no result; useless.
"a vain attempt to tidy up the room"
synonyms: futile, useless, pointless, worthless, nugatory, to no purpose
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« Reply #157 on: July 18, 2016, 17:56:37 »

Delays to everything heading out of Paddington at the moment due to 'signalling problems'. 😀
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« Reply #158 on: July 18, 2016, 18:31:39 »

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Delays to everything heading out of Paddington at the moment due to 'signalling problems'.

Perhaps they should paint the signals white as well  Smiley
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« Reply #159 on: July 18, 2016, 18:35:20 »

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Delays to everything heading out of Paddington at the moment due to 'signalling problems'.

Perhaps they should paint the signals white as well  Smiley

I believe it was a points failure at Slough...... Roll Eyes Shocked
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« Reply #160 on: July 18, 2016, 22:09:12 »

Ok, let me re-phrase my question. What was their logic in painting the rails white?
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« Reply #161 on: July 18, 2016, 22:18:29 »

Ok, let me re-phrase my question. What was their logic in painting the rails white?

White reflects the sun and reduces the temperature of the rail in the sun. I believe this has been explained previously on this forum.

There is sound science behind it. It may however not reduce the risk of points failure enough to prevent failure.
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« Reply #162 on: July 19, 2016, 06:55:14 »

Ok, let me re-phrase my question. What was their logic in painting the rails white?

White reflects the sun and reduces the temperature of the rail in the sun. I believe this has been explained previously on this forum.

There is sound science behind it. It may however not reduce the risk of points failure enough to prevent failure.
...........maybe GWR (Great Western Railway) could paint all their trains white to compensate for the broken aircon/non opening windows? 😉
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« Reply #163 on: July 19, 2016, 08:07:18 »

There is a lot to be said for painting trains white in order to reflect radiant heat and thereby render conditions a LITTLE more tolerable when the air conditioning breaks. Also slightly reduces the energy consumed by cooling.
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« Reply #164 on: July 19, 2016, 08:37:52 »

There is a lot to be said for painting trains white in order to reflect radiant heat and thereby render conditions a LITTLE more tolerable when the air conditioning breaks. Also slightly reduces the energy consumed by cooling.

There was at least one dark green train out there yesterday on which the AC (Alternating Current, or can mean Air Conditioning, depending on context. The second meaning is often used in a railway context and more generally) wasn't doing very well ... "34 degrees in each carriage" was comment to me; I was much relieved to be on a 153 which when moving with drop lights open at least had circulating air.
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