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« Reply #330 on: September 21, 2015, 11:21:07 »

And the 07:38 from Goring was 17 minutes late due to waiting for a freight train at Didcot Parkway, according to the driver announcement. Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin
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« Reply #331 on: September 21, 2015, 11:28:36 »

Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin

Many a true word spoke in jest.  Next pinch point Didcot, then Royal Wootton Bassett ...
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« Reply #332 on: September 21, 2015, 12:50:12 »

And the 07:38 from Goring was 17 minutes late due to waiting for a freight train at Didcot Parkway, according to the driver announcement. Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin

It appears there was a problem with the freight loco between Oxford and Didcot so a Didcot flyover wouldn't have helped. Though 4 tracking the section might  Wink
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« Reply #333 on: September 21, 2015, 15:35:05 »

And the 07:38 from Goring was 17 minutes late due to waiting for a freight train at Didcot Parkway, according to the driver announcement. Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin

It appears there was a problem with the freight loco between Oxford and Didcot so a Didcot flyover wouldn't have helped. Though 4 tracking the section might  Wink

I'd prefer banning freight at peak times, but maybe that's just me  Cheesy
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« Reply #334 on: September 21, 2015, 23:59:25 »

I remember hearing a Junior Transport Minister saying, at the time of privatisation, that if a freight company was prepared to pay for a path from Willesden to Tillbury, which involves crossing all 4 of the GE lines around Stratford, during the rush hour then that was OK. This was to be the new competitive railway 
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« Reply #335 on: September 22, 2015, 08:43:08 »

I remember hearing a Junior Transport Minister saying, at the time of privatisation, that if a freight company was prepared to pay for a path from Willesden to Tillbury, which involves crossing all 4 of the GE lines around Stratford, during the rush hour then that was OK. This was to be the new competitive railway 

Side question (I may split into a separate thread) ... how are "runs as required" freight paths priced / charged?   I probably need to ask in general to avoid getting a "commercial in confidence" answer, but looking at a Monday to Friday "Q" path which in practise runs less than 10 times a year ... is it paid for 10 times, or 250 times?
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« Reply #336 on: September 22, 2015, 10:26:09 »

And the 07:38 from Goring was 17 minutes late due to waiting for a freight train at Didcot Parkway, according to the driver announcement. Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin

It appears there was a problem with the freight loco between Oxford and Didcot so a Didcot flyover wouldn't have helped. Though 4 tracking the section might  Wink

I'd prefer banning freight at peak times, but maybe that's just me  Cheesy

Didn't the Southern Railway have a policy of running freight at night?
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« Reply #337 on: September 22, 2015, 16:09:16 »

In the mid 60 s the Central Division used to work their 33s hard.
Newspapers to Brighton early morning
Pass to Victoria or London Bridge via Uckfield.
ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) to New Cross Gate or Stewarts Lane
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Freight to Willsden or OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) via West London Line or Ferme Park via Widenened lines.
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Pass Brighton via Uckfiled
Vans to London and start cycle again.
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« Reply #338 on: September 22, 2015, 22:38:55 »

I'd prefer banning freight at peak times, but maybe that's just me  Cheesy

If you read the Route Studies, there are a lot of statements implying that a few freight paths present in the off-peak timetable are displaced by extra passenger services in the peak. That sounds like common sense, but I can't see anything in the Western RS, or elsewhere, that states this is what happens, and how it is managed. For example, for each path per hour off-peak, how many are available per day? How much of a freight path is over a part of the line that has a peak?

There are also several lines where extra loops are proposed as a way of coping with a mix of traffic including relatively slow freight trains. And, however much freight paths are reduced in the peaks now, one thing is clear from the study - there will need to be more of it in the future.

To see the other side of this - and everything has another side - see DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about) Schenker's consulation submission after the draft WRS (Western Route Study - Network Rail's successor to the RUS). Its tone is rather plaintive - "why is everyone ignoring us" - but it does explain the limits of some of these measures. Like most of the "working group and board" submissions, it appears to restate their inputs to the study that were not taken into account in the draft. I can't see that they are in the final version either.
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« Reply #339 on: September 26, 2015, 23:19:19 »


It appears there was a problem with the freight loco between Oxford and Didcot so a Didcot flyover wouldn't have helped. Though 4 tracking the section might  Wink

Mission creep, maybe, but I'm up for that...
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« Reply #340 on: September 27, 2015, 08:58:42 »

And the 07:38 from Goring was 17 minutes late due to waiting for a freight train at Didcot Parkway, according to the driver announcement. Time for a Didcot Viaduct ?  Grin

It appears there was a problem with the freight loco between Oxford and Didcot so a Didcot flyover wouldn't have helped. Though 4 tracking the section might  Wink

I'd prefer banning freight at peak times, but maybe that's just me  Cheesy

The railways were built as freight movers ............... people moving was and after thought.

There is space for both, the UK (United Kingdom) railways have managed for almost two centauries mixing freight and passenger trains on a congested network
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« Reply #341 on: October 09, 2015, 17:22:31 »

Seemed to be a fair few cancellations/alterations on LTV (London [and] Thames Valley) this morning due to "trains late from the depot"/staff shortages - heard it was a lack of shunters, anyone know the full story?
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« Reply #342 on: October 12, 2015, 17:35:45 »

No, I don't know the full story, but it may have been the result of their celebration of the first birthday of this particular topic.  Roll Eyes Wink Grin
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« Reply #343 on: October 12, 2015, 20:01:24 »

No, I don't know the full story, but it may have been the result of their celebration of the first birthday of this particular topic.  Roll Eyes Wink Grin

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« Reply #344 on: October 13, 2015, 08:10:04 »

It doesn't look like anything is running between Westbury and Reading until midday due to overrunning engineering works.
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