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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2024, 15:05:06 » |
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Excellent crayonista work there. But... run 'em on to the Hammersmith and City / Metropolitan and terminate 'em at Farringdon. :-)
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2024, 17:59:30 » |
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Could this, therefore, give the opportunity for a bit of much-needed sorting out of the line, while it is quiet? Unless all engineers are going to be busy at OOC▸ .
Plenty of work has already been undertaken recently, especially to the 770 axle counters Presumably that is this bit of work: NR» will bring forward planned track work. Axle counters, which are essential to safe signalling, are being fitted with “industry first” monitoring equipment to pre-empt failures. “They are still failing, but they are failing less often. That is a big part of the stabilisation,” said Jones. I take it those are the 770 Frauscher axle counters fitted in 2020-21 to replace all the track circuits out to Slough? Done to improve reliability, of course, and already needing some reliability enhancements!
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2024, 20:22:40 » |
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Long term, a GWR▸ link into Euston - with its ten minute walk to St Pancras International and a couple of minutes more to Kings Cross - would make sense.
I am attracted by the idea (sitting In my armchair) of an hourly service Weymouth, Upwey, Dorchester West, Maiden Newton, Chetnole, Yetminster, Thornford, Yeovil Interchange, Yeovil Pen Mill, Castle Cary, Bruton, Frome, Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham, Royal Wootton Bassett, Swindon, Grove and Wantage, Didcot Parkway, Reading, Hayes and Harlington, Vitus Quercus Venellam and London (Euston). Connections into that from the whole of the South West and South Wales right up to Worcester and out from that to the Heathrow link at Hayes and to the International link at Euston.
I am a bit worried that Go-Op appear to have taken control of grahame's account.
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2024, 07:41:28 » |
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Long term, a GWR▸ link into Euston - with its ten minute walk to St Pancras International and a couple of minutes more to Kings Cross - would make sense.
I am attracted by the idea (sitting In my armchair) of an hourly service Weymouth, Upwey, Dorchester West, Maiden Newton, Chetnole, Yetminster, Thornford, Yeovil Interchange, Yeovil Pen Mill, Castle Cary, Bruton, Frome, Westbury, Trowbridge, Melksham, Chippenham, Royal Wootton Bassett, Swindon, Grove and Wantage, Didcot Parkway, Reading, Hayes and Harlington, Vitus Quercus Venellam and London (Euston). Connections into that from the whole of the South West and South Wales right up to Worcester and out from that to the Heathrow link at Hayes and to the International link at Euston.
I am a bit worried that Go-Op appear to have taken control of grahame's account. Stakeholder/shareholder?!! 
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2024, 08:47:51 » |
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Is it not also the case that the number of (heavy, slow) freight services running via Acton Wells Junction will cause timetabling issues?
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2024, 09:01:28 » |
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I am a bit worried that Go-Op appear to have taken control of grahame's account.
Stakeholder/shareholder?!!  No - but there is considerable sense in many of the flows they look at, and should they start to operate a reliable service at my local station I would be delighted to help promote it as part of the overall service. Done properly, an integrated service of 9 GWR▸ trains and 7 Go-op services would boost passenger numbers from just under 70,000 per annum to over 250,000 per annum. Is it not also the case that the number of (heavy, slow) freight services running via Acton Wells Junction will cause timetabling issues?
Yes. When will that freight be electrified - and how slow is "slow" anyway - gone are the days of loose coupled four wheel wagon. High speed really isn't needed inwards of Ealing for these services - add a few minutes to the journey and it won't significantly reduce the benefit of the easy links from Euston / St.P KGX
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2024, 12:43:32 » |
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On Sunday 30th June GWR▸ ran a Sleeper set from Reading Traincare Depot to London Euston as a test for the upcoming diversions. Out: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K11265/2024-06-30/detailedReturn: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K11264/2024-06-30/detailedOnce at Euston an electric Class 90 was attached to supply shore power. This allowed for the diesel Class 57s to be shut down while the set was in Euston. This is expected to be the plan for the diverted sleeper services to alleviate noise and pollution issues. Photos of the Night Riviera set at Euston. From a Facebook group.  
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2024, 12:59:13 » |
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On Sunday 30th June GWR▸ ran a Sleeper set from Reading Traincare Depot to London Euston as a test for the upcoming diversions.
Stupid question for the future - why just during diversions? There used to be sleeper services from Kings Cross, and indeed St Pancras before that, to Scotland but they were all centralised on Euston. Just asking.
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2024, 18:10:35 » |
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Is it not also the case that the number of (heavy, slow) freight services running via Acton Wells Junction will cause timetabling issues?
Yes. When will that freight be electrified - and how slow is "slow" anyway - gone are the days of loose coupled four wheel wagon. High speed really isn't needed inwards of Ealing for these services - add a few minutes to the journey and it won't significantly reduce the benefit of the easy links from Euston / St.P KGX The FOC▸ 'w work on a single type of traction from start the starting point to end, they don't like the faff of changing engines, there are very few places on the GW» mainline where fright could be electric throughout; so the FOCs will continue to use diesel on the GW. Then there is the cost of electrifying the UP and DN Poplars and Acton Yard, the FOCs operating margins are tight, Network Rail could only carry the work out if the FOCs fund it or ............. the DfT» fund it(nuff said!!!) On Sunday 30th June GWR▸ ran a Sleeper set from Reading Traincare Depot to London Euston as a test for the upcoming diversions.
Stupid question for the future - why just during diversions? There used to be sleeper services from Kings Cross, and indeed St Pancras before that, to Scotland but they were all centralised on Euston. Just asking. Euston has capacity problems made more acute with the HS2▸ works
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2024, 21:40:08 » |
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That looks pretty comprehensive. We have been warned!
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2024, 21:10:30 » |
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GWR▸ are also planning to use Didcot Railway Centre during the blockade for the stabling of units. They were testing said stabling today. More details and pictures courtesy of Tim Dunn on twiXtter. https://x.com/MrTimDunn/status/1826629312490996213
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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2024, 21:26:27 » |
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I've taken the liberty of renaming this topic to cover all aspects of the 2024 blockade of the Great Western Main Line around Old Oak Common. The passenger service changes and diverts, the logistics for the TOCs▸ , the engineering, and so on. Here's a link to Network Rail's page on the upcoming work. https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/western/hs2-old-oak-common-station/
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2024, 21:59:51 » |
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One of the long term effects of the station will be after the GW» main lines are diverted through the platforms. There will be a permanent 60mph speed limit. That will add around two minutes to all trains going in and out of Paddington. That will increase if the service is timetabled to call at Old Oak Common.
It will therefore affect connections across the GWR▸ network.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2024, 22:22:06 » |
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One of the long term effects of the station will be after the GW» main lines are diverted through the platforms. There will be a permanent 60mph speed limit. That will add around two minutes to all trains going in and out of Paddington. That will increase if the service is timetabled to call at Old Oak Common.
It will therefore affect connections across the GWR▸ network.
I’m puzzled by that as I can’t see it making anywhere near 2 minutes difference to a non-stopping train given the current speeds limit of 50 as far out as Kendal Green. I would estimate 30 seconds at the most.
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
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