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And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC▸ over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads.
Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver. 52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today. But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails. |
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2024, 12:45:24 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2024, 13:53:47 » |
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Yes, thanks for the correction, for some reason I had confused Hither Green and Eltham Well hall.
AFAIK▸ , that was the last accident caused by a drunk train driver, most unlikely to happen today, but can not be absolutely ruled out.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2024, 18:27:24 » |
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And as for drunken driving ! The last fatal rail accident caused by the driver drinking was IIRC▸ over 50 years ago (Hither green) Happens all the time on the roads.
Hither Green in 1967 was a broken rail. Eltham Well Hall in 1972 was a drunk train driver. 52 years to the day since the Eltham Well Hall "accident" and I have, after thought, added this thread to the "historic" board as something that would not happen today. But a reminder of the need for systems to be in place to be vigilant, jut in case a safety-critical member of staff (or one who can endanger safety) goes - err - off the rails. Despite the well published policy on random D&A testing, which takes place across offices, depots, control centres, work sit access etc. post incident testing, the pre employment D&A testing and the regular testing at medicals; there are still people testing positive. Having said that the number is extremely low, there are not many industries that have the legal requirement to conduct regular random D&A testing |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2024, 21:11:29 » |
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Thank you for that information, Electric train.  What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example? I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2024, 22:33:10 » |
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is it 'zero'
There is no zero for ethanol in the human body. It is a metabolite of non-drinking people. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2024, 18:01:26 » |
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Thank you for that information, Electric train. What is the level of alcohol tested against: is it 'zero', or any lower level than the legal limit for driving road vehicles, for example? I'm asking genuinely out of professional interest. 29 mil g per 100ml of blood, 13 micro g per 100ml of breath, as Oxonchurch says there is no zero |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2024, 22:07:55 » |
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Thank you both for your detailed information.  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
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