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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2014, 21:33:18 »

Details should be made available on the website of the Independent Police Complaints Commission, at http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/investigations_and_reports
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2014, 22:37:42 »

What surprises me is that people were trapped on trains for up to 5 hours. Surely it should have been possible to work them back wrong line one by one to say Leamington, Oxford or Bicester North
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2014, 08:30:27 »

One assumes that there was an initial delay to see if the police could tempt him down quickly - by which time, there were trains being held at those stations as well as between & no way back....
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2014, 13:44:37 »

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POLICE shot a Taser at the man who closed Banbury Station today, it has been confirmed tonight.
The man is in a serious condition in hospital after he fell from the signal gantry he had scaled at the station this morning.

Police said the man was harming himself with a knife during the near five-hour incident as officers tried to negotiate with him to come down.

Thames Valley Police spokeswoman Michelle Nicols said a Taser stun gun was fired but it was not known tonight if this is what caused him to fall on to platform 1 just after 2pm.

Train services were cancelled for more than five hours and delays continued into the afternoon. However they were back running to schedule by the evening rush-hour.

The man climbed onto the gantry on platform 1 just after 9am.

Thames Valley Police spokeswoman Hannah Williams said: "A man was standing on a gantry at the railway station where he was harming himself with a knife. The man subsequently fell from the gantry and was detained.

"He was taken by ambulance to the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford where his condition is described as serious."

A South Central Ambulance Service spokesman said it was believed he had suffered a neck injury.

Both Thames Valley and British Transport Police have contacted the Independent Police Complaints Commission over the incident.

A witness said the man appeared to be covered in blood when he was on the gantry.

Sarah Jones, 22, was at the station this morning to try and catch a train to Oxford, and saw the man, believed to be in his 20s, on the gantry at platform 1.

She said: ^At about 9.30am I saw a man sat on the pylon. Police were running through the station to try and talk him down.

^I don^t know what he^d done to himself but he was covered in blood.

^He^s wearing a yellow t-shirt and from the neckline to the bottom, right down the middle, was pure red. His hands were all red too.^

Police officers had been trying to negotiate with the man to come down safely.

Miss Jones, from Banbury, said: ^He was shouting at police officers, kicking out at them and throwing things at them.

^He then started using his hands to pull the wires apart.^

Miss Jones said that staff and police had been trying to talk the man down and that all platforms were evacuated at about 10.15am.

She said: ^We were told to go upstairs and stay away from the windows and things.

^There was a woman who said she was a mental health social worker who knew him. She^s with the police talking to him.^

The full-time mum said: ^It was really scary, no one was expecting this. There were little kids around and things. It must have been terrifying for them.^

Buses replaced trains between Bicester North and Banbury and also between Oxford and Banbury.

The bridge in Bridge Street was closed.

As well as train cancellations, buses were affected.

Stagecoach Oxford has said that the 500 service was unable to serve Middleton Road during the incident. 

Banbury deputy police commander  Ch Insp Helen Roberts said: ^I understand there was significant disruption to people on trains and to those planning to use the railway station which was essential while officers worked to resolve the situation.

^I would like to thank the public for their patience while the incident was ongoing.^

So the Police tasered a known Mental Health patient.....hmmm
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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2014, 13:52:02 »

And? Is there anything in the Police use of Taser^ code of practice that says they can't use it on someone with mental health issues?

Don't answer that. As it would only be further unfounded speculation. Let's just let the agencies involved get on with investigating what happened.
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2014, 13:53:01 »

Indeed. Let's see what the IPCC makes of both referrals.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2014, 17:48:28 »

Have a read of this rather long document in regards to arms and tasers. These are the rules the police are expected to follow. I reckon that the guy who was tazer'ed could technically actually sue the police force under HRA. If anything happens out of it would be a matter for the courts and judicial process.

I would be interested to see which force shot first and the grounds, something im sure the IPCC will find out if the police forces co-operate.

http://www.westmercia.police.uk/assets/_files/documents/jul_13/wmp__1372866447_APP_Armed_Policing_Printable_f.pdf


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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2014, 23:55:09 »

I'm posting the following three news items as a summary of what is known so far about what happened at Banbury. However, as I hope we're all agreed, any further speculation would be inappropriate: we need to await the Independent Police Complaints Commission's findings.

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Banbury station stand-off referred to watchdog

The police watchdog has received a referral over a stand-off between officers and a man who had scaled a signal gantry at a railway station.

Thames Valley Police confirmed a Taser was fired during the incident in Banbury, which caused travel chaos.

Police said the man was harming himself with a knife and fell from the gantry.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said the force was required to make the referral because the man had been seriously injured.

The force could not confirm whether the man had been hit by the Taser. The man, in his 20s, was taken to hospital on Monday.

Some passengers reported being stuck on a train for five hours while Banbury station was closed.

British Transport Police also referred the incident to the IPCC, which is yet to launch a full investigation.

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Station incident latest: Police confirm man was tasered

Police have confirmed a man in his 20s who climbed a signal gantry at Banbury Railway Station was harming himself with a knife and had to be tasered by officers after he fell.

The station was cordoned off at 9.40am after the man from Banbury climbed the gantry next to the main town centre railway bridge and refused to come down. All train services were cancelled and roads around the station were closed.

At 2pm police negotiators were able to talk the man down but police had to taser him in order to detain him.

He was then taken to the John Radcliffe Hospital with injuries described as serious.

Thames Valley POlice issued a statement yesterday evening saying: ^Thames Valley Police attended a fear for welfare incident at Banbury Railway Station earlier today. Shortly after 9.30am TVP officers attended the scene where there was a concern for a man^s welfare. Train services were suspended while the incident was ongoing. A man was standing on a gantry at the railway station where he was harming himself with a knife. The man subsequently fell from the gantry and was detained. Taser was deployed by TVP officers during the incident. He was taken by ambulance to the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford where his condition is described as serious.^

The matter has been referred by British Transport Police to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) and Thames Valley Police has also notified the IPCC as a matter of routine.

Chief Inspector Helen Roberts, LPA Deputy Commander for Banbury, said: ^I understand there was significant disruption to people on trains and to those planning to use the railway station which was essential while officers worked to resolve the situation. I would like to thank the public for their patience while the incident was ongoing.^

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Police fire Taser at man to end rail station stand-off


The man threatens to jump, harming himself as a police officer climbs to help at Banbury train station

Police fired a Taser at a knife-wielding man who closed Banbury Station when he climbed on to a signal gantry, it emerged last night.

The near five-hour stand-off with officers was ended yesterday when the man ^ who police said was harming himself with a knife ^ fell from the gantry.

He was taken to Oxford^s John Radcliffe Hospital and was last night said to be in a serious condition.

Thames Valley Police spokeswoman Michelle Nichols said police did fire a Taser but could not confirm if the man was struck by its barbs.

The man had scaled the structure just after 9am. The station was shut during the incident, causing severe delays to rail services.

Eyewitness Sarah Jones, 22, was planning to catch a train to Oxford yesterday morning. She said: ^At about 9.30am I saw a man sat on the pylon. Police were running through the station to try to talk him down. I don^t know what he^d done to himself, but he was covered in blood. He was wearing a yellow T-shirt and from the neckline to the bottom, right down the middle, was pure red. His hands were all red too.^

Police officers attempted to talk the man down.

Miss Jones, from Banbury, added: ^He was shouting at police officers, kicking out at them and throwing things at them. He then started using his hands to pull the wires apart.^

Miss Jones said all platforms were evacuated at about 10.15am. She said: ^We were told to go upstairs and stay away from the windows and things. There was a woman who said she was a mental health social worker who knew him. She was with the police talking to him.^

The full-time mum said: ^It was really scary. No one was expecting this. There were little kids around. It must have been terrifying for them.^

Craig Barrie, who lives behind the station, added: ^They shut off the bridge in Bridge Street and no one was allowed over it, except one woman who was escorted by police over the bridge at one point. The negotiators kept putting their hands up, gesturing for him to come down.^

The 40-year-old, full-time dad of six, said: ^The police actually tried getting up on the gantry hole and he turned around and went backwards over the side. He landed on the platform on his back and everyone rushed towards him ^ police, paramedics, everyone. It was quite dramatic and traumatic.^

Chiltern Rail and CrossCountry trains through Banbury were cancelled and delayed, with replacement buses running between the station and Bicester North and Oxford. Buses were also affected, due to the bridge closure and Middleton Road being closed to traffic.

British Transport Police spokesman Brian Price said: ^Trained negotiators from Thames Valley Police spoke to the man while he remained on the gantry above the tracks. The man jumped from the gantry shortly after 2pm and was detained by officers before being taken by ambulance to John Radcliffe.^

Both forces have contacted the Independent Police Complaints Commission over the incident.

The station re-opened at 2.30pm, and normal train services were resumed shortly after 5pm.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 15:07:48 »

IPCC passed it back to Thames Valley Police....from the Banbury Guardian

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The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has referred the circumstances surrounding a fear for welfare incident in Banbury back to Thames Valley Police to conduct an internal enquiry.


Both British Transport Police and Thames Valley Police notified the IPCC last week after a man climbed a signal gantry at Banbury Railway Station and remained there for five hours before falling down and being tasered by police to prevent him causing harm to himself and others.

TVP will now conduct a local investigation in to the incident.

The man in his 20s was taken to the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford where it is understood he remains in a stable condition.

Fat chance of a proper inquiry now.
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2015, 10:56:56 »

After many a false dawn over the years, preliminary work has now started on the Banbury resignalling project which will mean the closure of Banbury North and South signalboxes (control transferred to the West Midlands Signalling Centre), replacement of the many semaphore signals with modern colour light signalling (presumably based on axle counters) and a modified track layout that, AIUI (as I understand it), includes removal of the bay platform and widening of the current platform 3 to create a new through platform along the formation of the current 'Up Goods Loop'.  Time to get down there quick if you want to record the absolute block signalling still in operation at this busy main line location!

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/infrastructure/single-view/view/siemens-starts-work-on-banbury-resignalling.html
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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2015, 11:09:47 »

First closures over the Mayday bank holiday I understand.

Yes, platform 4 will become a full length up platform! A number of the stabling lines are going too, to preserve the up goods loop, and hence why Chiltern want to develop a new depot at Banbury, south of the south signal box.
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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2015, 11:31:04 »

That all makes sense in providing a nice flexible layout.  Hopefully bi-directional signalling will be provided to all platforms and Platform 1 will also be modified to increase the line speed as the current 15mph limit is quite restrictive.  If anyone has any access to maps and plans then please post them here as I've been unable to source any as yet.
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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2015, 12:06:12 »

I'm hoping to set up a meeting with an NR» (Network Rail - home page) LNWR (London North Western Railway) manager (who are in Birmingham Mailbox I believe) sometime soon, and those are something I'm going to try for, certainly
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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2015, 18:52:33 »


I'm being told that the layout on those screens in the photo in this article is the finished layout of the project....does it look like Banbury? I'm not sure.....

No, it's not - for two reasons.

1. The 20012011 calendar on the desk - unless NR» (Network Rail - home page) do have a time machine that works forwards (we all known they have one that goes the other way).
2. Because it's nothing like the right layout - in fact, it's the Crewe and Stockport line (Cheadle Hulme lower right)!
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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2015, 21:59:46 »

No, it's not - for two reasons.
1. The 2001 calendar on the desk ...

It's actually 2011.  Wink Cheesy Grin
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