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Author Topic: More trains originating/terminating beyond bedwyn for Hungerford and Bedwyn?  (Read 17309 times)
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« on: May 18, 2008, 18:01:25 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 18:19:27 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?

Just extend the NSE (Network South East) service to Westbury. Not enough demand for longer distance.

And slowing down more InterCity trains is not good.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 18:23:54 »

Quite simply no. Trains to the West are slow enough as it! Besides many of them do not have enough seats for increased growth.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 18:39:58 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?

Just extend the NSE (Network South East) service to Westbury. Not enough demand for longer distance.

And slowing down more InterCity trains is not good.

You mean like the equivalent of running a NXEC (National Express East Coast) service limited stop London to Berwick then all stations to Edinburgh (similar to London to Plymouth limited then all stations to Penzance, or London to Weston...)
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 19:23:39 »

Or Virgin West Coast running London to Birmingham then all stations to Wolverhampton.

Not knowing much about Hungerford, I thought I'd check the population, which stands at 5,559. (http://www.hungerford.uk.net/councilmainpages/council_statistics.php). Far too small to warrant regular HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), and an extension of Bedwyn shuttles to Westbury as everyone else has said is more sensible.

Perhaps when this crossrail lark actually comes in, it will free up more turbos to provide more suitable services for these stops.

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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 22:25:51 »

Don't be silly. Running a West Country express:

London, Reading, Taunton, Exeter, Newton, Totnes, Plymouth and stations to Penzance is nothing like "London to Birmingham, them all stations to Wolverhampton!!!"

Call at Pewsey, Westbury, Castle Cary and Tiverton on Plymouth services.

Call at Dawlish and Teignmouth on Torbay services.

etc.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 08:43:20 »

But not dissimilar to London - Weston, as your previous post stated?
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 09:13:39 »

Don't be silly. Running a West Country express:

London, Reading, Taunton, Exeter, Newton, Totnes, Plymouth and stations to Penzance is nothing like "London to Birmingham, them all stations to Wolverhampton!!!"

Call at Pewsey, Westbury, Castle Cary and Tiverton on Plymouth services.

Call at Dawlish and Teignmouth on Torbay services.

etc.

Personally I'd stop everything at Parkway, apart from the od few expresses that are fast to Exeter, Parkway stations are very popular and Tiverton is very busy for the population is represents. Having just opened a new car park to strip it of most of its direct services to London would be criminal!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2008, 18:23:21 »

But not dissimilar to London - Weston, as your previous post stated?

That is an extension of a NSE (Network South East) service, not an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).

So is nothing like it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2008, 18:33:59 »

When was London - Bristol NSE (Network South East)?
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2008, 21:09:32 »

Unless he means via Sailsbury? Perhaps SWT (South West Trains) have plans to go on to Weston that no one else knows about.

Weston Super Mare and intermediate stations have nothing to do with NSE (Network South East). Temple Meads came under the Intercity sector, the stops to Weston were Regional Railways.

NSE land ended at Didcot Parkway (which incidentally came under Intercity anyway).
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 11:03:07 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?

Just extend the NSE (Network South East) service to Westbury. Not enough demand for longer distance.

And slowing down more InterCity trains is not good.

This is what I meant, not stopping IC (Inter City) trains there, but extending the Bedwyn services.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 18:15:27 »

When was London - Bristol NSE (Network South East)?

Never! I don't know how you interpreted my comment to mean that!
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 18:24:26 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?

Just extend the NSE (Network South East) service to Westbury. Not enough demand for longer distance.

And slowing down more InterCity trains is not good.

This is what I meant, not stopping IC (Inter City) trains there, but extending the Bedwyn services.


I understood what you meant the ex NSE Turbo Services starting / terminating from Westbury rather than Bedwyn.

If you throw into the mix that there is a small squadon of empty trains from Reading to Bedwyn at stupid o'clock every morning to start the Turbo service the idea of having them run as passenger trains from Westbury crewed by Westbury depot makes a lot of sense.

And before anyone says Westbury don't know the road / traction that is small beer in the scheme of things. Reading has a terrible staff retention problem, so training for the status quo also costs a fortune
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2008, 18:30:48 »

More Bedwyn trains should go further West, and Hungerford should have a better service to the West. Anyone got any thoughts?

Just extend the NSE (Network South East) service to Westbury. Not enough demand for longer distance.

And slowing down more InterCity trains is not good.

This is what I meant, not stopping IC (Inter City) trains there, but extending the Bedwyn services.


I understood what you meant the ex NSE Turbo Services starting / terminating from Westbury rather than Bedwyn.

If you throw into the mix that there is a small squadon of empty trains from Reading to Bedwyn at stupid o'clock every morning to start the Turbo service the idea of having them run as passenger trains from Westbury crewed by Westbury depot makes a lot of sense.

And before anyone says Westbury don't know the road / traction that is small beer in the scheme of things. Reading has a terrible staff retention problem, so training for the status quo also costs a fortune

You'd need to recruit some new blokes (and women!) first though!
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