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« Reply #120 on: December 19, 2022, 07:42:34 » |
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« Reply #121 on: December 19, 2022, 07:48:22 » |
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Perhaps Liverpool St then?
Correct - the inclined wheelchair / luggage lift that runs alongside the escalator - on my way from Melksham to Stansted early one November morning. I wonder how it compares to the included lift at Greenford which I have not yet seen. |
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« Reply #122 on: December 19, 2022, 12:20:08 » |
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Perhaps Liverpool St then?
Correct - the inclined wheelchair / luggage lift that runs alongside the escalator - on my way from Melksham to Stansted early one November morning. I wonder how it compares to the included lift at Greenford which I have not yet seen. How does it compare? Well, the Greenford one is above ground, for a start. It is a different design from the Crossrail ones, since Kone (who have the TfL» -wide contract for lifts) didn't make them so it was bought in from Hütter Aufzuge. Crossrail also used Kone for lifts, who by then had developed an inclined lift product. It is also shorter than three of the Crossrail ones, with a rise of 9.13 m against over 14 m. |
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« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2022, 09:41:36 » |
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Fascinating update on angled lifts, thank you, Stuving. I guess what was a novelty at Greenford has turned out to be the first of a series and perhaps we may see others alongside stairs and escalators at some of the more difficult access stations such as Penhelig. For today:  |
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« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2022, 10:41:55 » |
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Bristol Temple Meads platform 3, with ticket gates next to Bonapartes.
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« Reply #125 on: December 20, 2022, 10:52:05 » |
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Bristol Temple Meads platform 3, with ticket gates next to Bonapartes.
Indeed ... Bristol Temple Meads is an incredible station at the moment with great changes going on! |
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« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2022, 12:51:53 » |
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Fascinating update on angled lifts, thank you, Stuving. I guess what was a novelty at Greenford has turned out to be the first of a series and perhaps we may see others alongside stairs and escalators at some of the more difficult access stations such as Penhelig.
The Tyne Pedestrian tunnel also now has some pretty long inclined lifts. The escalators there were a very similar length to those at Angel underground, the latter usually being quoted as the longest in the UK▸ . |
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« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2022, 17:34:33 » |
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I guess what was a novelty at Greenford has turned out to be the first of a series
First on a transport network and often cited as the first in the UK▸ . However, one was installed near the Millennium Bridge in 2003, and updated in 2012. |
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« Reply #128 on: December 21, 2022, 00:46:34 » |
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I guess what was a novelty at Greenford has turned out to be the first of a series
First on a transport network and often cited as the first in the UK▸ . However, one was installed near the Millennium Bridge in 2003, and updated in 2012. In TfL» 's case, this didn't just "turn out" to be a series. From an FoI response from TfL on 5/3/18: We installed the first Inclined lift on the Network using an existing escalator shaft to trial the concept before installing machines on Crossrail.. We ensured that the station remained open during the works which did add to the complexity of installation works required. The contract was placed with Kone PLC who also have a contract with us for a substantial number of vertical lifts; however the inclined lift was subcontracted to Hutter Aufzuge with Kone ensuring customer interface met London Underground Specifications. This arrangement did add time and cost to the project as Hutter Aufzuge were purchased by another company and their organisation radically changed during the Greenford contract delivery. Kone PLC have now developed their own inclined lift product and this is scheduled to be installed within Crossrail Stations. They didn't mention this linkage when publicising the Greenford one. I guess they needed PR▸ saying "aren't we nice people, going to all this trouble to give you step-free access", not "aren't you lucky that we needed somewhere to put one of these things to see if it works". |
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« Reply #129 on: December 21, 2022, 06:53:22 » |
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« Reply #130 on: December 21, 2022, 06:57:02 » |
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An over elaborate bike stand?
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« Reply #131 on: December 21, 2022, 07:54:32 » |
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An over elaborate bike stand?
Maybe ... I believe that these curious 4 legged items were used before bicycles to help people get around, in the days when paths and tracks were not smooth enough for wheeled vehicles. Perhaps it's a monument to those days? |
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« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2022, 08:02:15 » |
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« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2022, 08:21:51 » |
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One of twelve 'Iron Horses' installed between Birmingham New St and Wolverhampton that can (or could) be seen from trains. Commissioned in 1997 by British Rail and local authorities in the area. Artist: Kevin Atherton. https://blog.rowleygallery.co.uk/iron-horses/ |
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« Reply #134 on: December 21, 2022, 09:19:25 » |
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An over elaborate bike stand?
Maybe ... I believe that these curious 4 legged items were used before bicycles to help people get around, in the days when paths and tracks were not smooth enough for wheeled vehicles. Perhaps it's a monument to those days? If you have seen the state of the roads around Swindon you could be forgiven for thinking we might need to return to that age. |
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