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« on: August 30, 2022, 22:33:24 »

From Inside Croydon

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Funding formula for the country’s biggest railway operator represents  ‘levelling down’ for London, according to a member of one of the largest passenger user groups

More Southern and Thameslink railway timetable changes were slipped out last week, just ahead of a bank holiday weekend and with barely a week’s notice before they are implemented on September 4.

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After extensive lobbying by passengers and rail user groups, Chris Philp, the Tory MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) for Croydon South and until recently a junior minister in Boris Johnson’s government, has asked for a meeting with Govia.

“These service changes are all being implemented because of funding decisions by the Department for Transport and the Treasury,” one member of a large railway user group told Inside Croydon. “You can understand why the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) are in dispute over these cuts by stealth.

“The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) is responding to a drop in usage post-covid. Philp might well meet with Govia, but he needs to take the issue up with the DfT and the Treasury.”

The reduced services from September 4 are…

London Bridge to Caterham via Tulse Hill, only runs to East Croydon. This reduces the Caterham branch from 4 trains per hour to 2 traisn per hour and by 2 trains per hour at Purley.
London Bridge to East Croydon/Coulsdon Town via Sydenham withdrawn. This reduces the Tattenham Corner branch to 2 trains per hour and removes direct trains from all stations from New Cross Gate to Anerley to East Croydon. Penge West and Anerley will no longer have Southern trains to London Bridge. They are left with only London Overground trains.
The Sunday service on the Tattenham Corner line will be reduced from 2 London trains per hour to an hourly shuttle service to Purley only. This means the service will be used only by those that need to, rather than those that would like to.
Failure to reinstate the peak hour Caterham/Tattenham Corner line to Victoria. Reduces the peak service to 2 trains per hour, the worst service on the line since World War II.
London Victoria to Horsham/Dorking semi-fast service withdrawn. This reduces the service from Carshalton and Sutton to Victoria from 4 trains per hour to 2 trains per hour

There are other issues, too…

The service from Sutton to West Croydon remains reduced from 6 trains per to 4 trains per hour.
The off-peak service from Selhurst, Thornton Heath and Norbury is still reduced from 4 trains per hour to 2 trains per hour.
The Oxted line serving Sanderstead and Riddlesdown off-peak is still reduced from 2 trains per hour to 1 train per hour.
When questioned on this, Govia say that their contract with the Department for Transport only allows them to operate this level of service. They say that they don’t have sufficient rolling stock to reinstate these services, something that is disputed by the passenger groups, who claim that there is compatible 379 rolling stock in storage with one of the leasing companies. They say that the government has refused to let Govia lease them as this would require more money
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Not surprising, even pre pandemic the non peak loadings on these services were light to say the least
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