Day after strike - is advice really still "only travel if essential"

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[grahame]

Sunday 31st July 2022.

Day trip to visit the Outlet Centre.  First train "bustitued" so

Melksham to Swindon ... 11:00 to 11:28
return 15:44 to 16:08 or 17:44 to 18:08 ...

4 adults together - £21.80?

BUT

Disruption to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) services is likely to continue on Sunday 31 July due to the industrial action earlier this week. Please only travel if absolutely necessary, if your journey is essential, plan ahead and check your entire journey before you travel. GWR will be operating a severely reduced timetable on our long-distance services.

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

[Timmer]

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

Just watched this video from Network Rail https://twitter.com/GWRHelp/status/1552585350299746305 where the advice is not to travel today as well. Whilst I understand services are very likely to be busy today, can you keep up this message of advising people not to travel all the time? Last week it was as a result of hot weather. Both understandable situations to give that advice but if the same message is all people hear coming from the railway they will think twice, if they haven't already, and stop travelling by train.

[IndustryInsider]

It’s a tricky one.

Agreed that the ‘do not travel’ message is trotted out far too often.  Though todays trains are very busy from what I’ve seen so far.  A combination of less trains running and postponed journeys from yesterday.  If, say 20%, of people heeded the essential journeys only message then that’s probably helped prevent some trains from having to leave people behind.  Crowding is far more of a problem today than yesterday on routes where services are running.

I dread to think how packed that 2-car on the CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)<>PMH diagram is coping.  All a bit depressing really.

[Phantom]

Sunday 31st July 2022.

Day trip to visit the Outlet Centre.  First train "bustitued" so

Melksham to Swindon ... 11:00 to 11:28
return 15:44 to 16:08 or 17:44 to 18:08 ...

4 adults together - £21.80?

BUT

Disruption to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) services is likely to continue on Sunday 31 July due to the industrial action earlier this week. Please only travel if absolutely necessary, if your journey is essential, plan ahead and check your entire journey before you travel. GWR will be operating a severely reduced timetable on our long-distance services.

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

Five of us heading to Wembley early Sunday from WSM, at the moment there is an early train showing as running, note GWR still showing Sundays timetable is still to be confirmed

[Timmer]

I dread to think how packed that 2-car on the CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)<>PMH diagram is coping.  All a bit depressing really.

Unfortunately, I think there is more than one 2 car diagram on the CDF<>PMH line today 

[bobm]

Sunday 31st July 2022.

Day trip to visit the Outlet Centre.  First train "bustitued" so

Melksham to Swindon ... 11:00 to 11:28
return 15:44 to 16:08 or 17:44 to 18:08 ...

4 adults together - £21.80?

BUT

Disruption to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) services is likely to continue on Sunday 31 July due to the industrial action earlier this week. Please only travel if absolutely necessary, if your journey is essential, plan ahead and check your entire journey before you travel. GWR will be operating a severely reduced timetable on our long-distance services.

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

Five of us heading to Wembley early Sunday from WSM, at the moment there is an early train showing as running, note GWR still showing Sundays timetable is still to be confirmed

Apparently there are signs there won’t be huge numbers of drivers looking for overtime on Sunday.

[grahame]

Unfortunately, I think there is more than one 2 car diagram on the CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)<>PMH line today 

Sampling at Salisbury headed for Cardiff on Real Time Trains

8 trains in "cycle"
1 x 5 car
1 x 4 car
2 x 3 car
2 x 2 car
2 x unidentified

In detail:

09:42 - Cancel
10:42 - ?

11:42 - 2 car 13:46 to 14:30 CDF ; 17:52 - 18:34 PMH; 19:42 SAL; 165129
12:42 - 2 165127
13:42 - 5 165136 + 166212
14:42 - 4 158749 + 158750
15:43 - 3 166211
16:42 - ?
17:42 - 3 158957
18:42 - ? and showing to BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) "VAR"

19:42 - 2 and that's the same diagram as the 11:42 - 165129 again
20:42 - 5 165127 again, now with 166216 added
21:42 - 3 166212 again, but with 165136 dropped off

[grahame]

Following up (and knowing we have thread drift) ... I took a list at cruises starting and ending in Southampton over the next week

From (here)



To give you idea of a busy day - 30th - that's around 20,000 passenger berths
Celebrity Silhouette - 2886
MSC Virtuosa - 4842 (cabins as doubles - many can take a family)
Ventura - 3192
Iona - 5206
Sky Princess - 3660
Of course, I don't know how many will be unoccupied.

[TaplowGreen]

Sunday 31st July 2022.

Day trip to visit the Outlet Centre.  First train "bustitued" so

Melksham to Swindon ... 11:00 to 11:28
return 15:44 to 16:08 or 17:44 to 18:08 ...

4 adults together - £21.80?

BUT

Disruption to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) services is likely to continue on Sunday 31 July due to the industrial action earlier this week. Please only travel if absolutely necessary, if your journey is essential, plan ahead and check your entire journey before you travel. GWR will be operating a severely reduced timetable on our long-distance services.

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

Five of us heading to Wembley early Sunday from WSM, at the moment there is an early train showing as running, note GWR still showing Sundays timetable is still to be confirmed

Apparently there are signs there won’t be huge numbers of drivers looking for overtime on Sunday.

It's a brave man (or woman) who makes too many plans relying on GWR turning up on any given Sunday, irrespective of events on the previous day, however Saturdays strike will no doubt make the service even less robust than usual (.....which admittedly isn't setting the bar too high!)

[CyclingSid]

... I took a list at cruises starting and ending in Southampton over the next week

Looks like Cross Country services to Southampton will be busy. I hope people have checked before they rely on using them in the current situation.

[grahame]

... I took a list at cruises starting and ending in Southampton over the next week

Looks like Cross Country services to Southampton will be busy. I hope people have checked before they rely on using them in the current situation.

WAY off topic ... but there are 66 visits by cruise ships (25 different ships) in August. Most of them are cruise starts and ends
   3 AIDAPRIMA
   2 AIDASOL
   3 ANTHEM OF THE SEAS
   3 ARCADIA
   2 AURORA
   1 AZAMARA QUEST
   3 BOLETTE
   2 BRITANNIA
   4 CELEBRITY SILHOUETTE
   3 EMERALD PRINCESS
   4 ENCHANTED PRINCESS
   5 IONA
   3 ISLAND PRINCESS
   2 MEIN SCHIFF 3
   4 MSC VIRTUOSA
   1 NORWEGIAN PRIMA
   1 NORWEGIAN STAR
   3 QUEEN MARY 2
   5 QUEEN VICTORIA
   1 SEABOURN QUEST
   1 SEVEN SEAS SPLENDOR
   1 SEVEN SEAS VOYAGER
   3 SKY PRINCESS
   2 SPIRIT OF ADVENTURE
   4 VENTURA

[Richard Fairhurst]

Is advice REALLY not to travel on Sunday?

Absolutely no services showing up at Charlbury on the journey-planners.

Which is a bit worrying as Riverside (said to be the largest free music festival in the south-east) is this weekend...

[ChrisB]

Which I note was confirmed by GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) twitter team.

Not good - many people coming out of town today for the weekend, expecting some sort of service on Sunday (possibly some cancelled but certainly not all....).

They were showing yesterday so the online planners can only have been updated overnight last night. Would you re-check again today having checked yesterday? I'm not sure I would....

I have written to GWR expecting them to relax ticket restrictions in Monday's AM peak such that weekenders can use the return that would have been used on Sunday in Monday's AM peak. It's only fair that they could get to work on Monday (even if that's from their weekday home) without having to pay extra in order to do so.

[Richard Fairhurst]

There's now a note on gwr.com saying that both the North Cotswolds and South Cotswolds lines will have no service on Sunday.

Really very poor indeed. I could understand a skeleton service, once every three hours or so, but nothing at all?

[TaplowGreen]

Quite a few crew shortage cancellations/short runs today too, is this related to the strike?