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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2022, 11:28:37 » |
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I've dived in and bought myself a 1st Class one month pass starting 18 Feb. Around £370.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2022, 11:57:02 » |
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I've dived in and bought myself a 1st Class one month pass starting 18 Feb. Around £370.
I am SO tempted, Richard - might even bump into you on the platform at Livorno Centrale ... |
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2022, 13:21:42 » |
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I've dived in and bought myself a 1st Class one month pass starting 18 Feb. Around £370.
Having read the headlines, Richard, I understood that the start date needed to be within 11 months but did not have to be set at this point. Having been through the booking process, can you confirm whether that's the case or did you have to give a date? |
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2022, 13:36:41 » |
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I've dived in and bought myself a 1st Class one month pass starting 18 Feb. Around £370.
Having read the headlines, Richard, I understood that the start date needed to be within 11 months but did not have to be set at this point. Having been through the booking process, can you confirm whether that's the case or did you have to give a date? I've bought a paper pass so had to specify a start date when booking, Graham. Looks like if you buy a mobile pass, you don't need to do this. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2022, 17:28:50 » |
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I've dived in and bought myself a 1st Class one month pass starting 18 Feb. Around £370.
I am SO tempted, Richard - might even bump into you on the platform at Livorno Centrale ... Temptation toooo great .... |
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2022, 18:00:35 » |
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Temptation toooo great ....
Taking advantage of rail travel in foreign countries which is far cheaper than the residents of those country can get it for. I don't know!  |
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2022, 17:54:50 » |
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Temptation toooo great ....
Taking advantage of rail travel in foreign countries which is far cheaper than the residents of those country can get it for. I don't know! It must be said however that in most of those foreign countries, that the full fares, as paid by residents of those countries are much lower than UK▸ fares. UK fares are generally accepted to be the highest in Europe and possibly in the whole world. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2022, 20:02:54 » |
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It must be said however that in most of those foreign countries, that the full fares, as paid by residents of those countries are much lower than UK▸ fares. UK fares are generally accepted to be the highest in Europe and possibly in the whole world.
I’m pretty sure we debunked that generalisation before, but here’s the link again: https://www.seat61.com/uk-europe-train-fares-comparison.html |
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 07:46:29 » |
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Agreed - you have lies, damned lies and statistics. And so many fares to choose from - at least in the UK▸ - when you're working out up your press release or article. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2022, 08:13:30 » |
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Depends on the type of journey and who you ask it would seem;
Absolutely right. The article I linked to was comparing fares for journeys that InterRail users are likely to take, in response to Brosdgage’s generalisation, which is not commuter journeys of course. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2022, 11:28:16 » |
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It must be said however that in most of those foreign countries, that the full fares, as paid by residents of those countries are much lower than UK▸ fares. UK fares are generally accepted to be the highest in Europe and possibly in the whole world.
I’m pretty sure we debunked that generalisation before, but here’s the link again: https://www.seat61.com/uk-europe-train-fares-comparison.htmlThat shows peak time fares overseas as being well over twice those charged in the UK. Of peak and advance purchase fares show the UK in a rather more favourable light. But might be less representative. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2022, 11:34:05 » |
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Depends on the type of journey and who you ask it would seem;
Absolutely right. The article I linked to was comparing fares for journeys that InterRail users are likely to take, in response to Broadgage’s generalisation, which is not commuter journeys of course. My generalisation WAS intended to be a reference to the fares generally paid by the residents of those other countries "that the full fares, as paid by residents of those countries are much lower than UK▸ fares. UK fares are generally accepted to be the highest in Europe and possibly in the whole world" And not just to special offer holiday fares. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 12:08:15 » |
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My generalisation WAS intended to be a reference to the fares generally paid by the residents of those other countries
"that the full fares, as paid by residents of those countries are much lower than UK▸ fares. UK fares are generally accepted to be the highest in Europe and possibly in the whole world"
Erm, indeed it was, which is why I posted the link that proves that often isn’t the case in regard to the topic we’re discussing on this thread.  All sorts of other considerations to take into account, such as average earnings, speed/frequency of journey, etc. Much more complicated than a generalisation. |
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