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« Reply #135 on: February 20, 2022, 23:06:10 » |
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It's getting quite squally here, though not like Friday of course - it's dark, and there's more rain. Meanwhile, SWR» have at last managed to get a train all the way from Waterloo to Reading. Nominally that's 2C51 and arrived 47L at 19:04, but the timetable (even as amended) has little to do with it. There have been a handful of trains so far, all of them part-route but in overlapping parts, which is odd.
And since then ... nothing. Apparently there's a tree near Longross, and I suspect more than just one. The signallers have put "-ESO" in a couple of places, whatever that means (probably not Eisenbahn-Signalordnung). Meanwhile GWR▸ have managed something that looks like a service - most trains on time RDG‡-GLD, though half being cancelled east of Shalford. |
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« Reply #136 on: February 21, 2022, 08:14:24 » |
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As part of the (virtual) cleanup and activity for the multiple storm, I have retitled this thread to cover the whole series of storms. I did consider splitting each into a separate thread, but it was hard to identify where one ended and the next started ....
Subject line liable to further amendment for Hubert, Ida, John, Keira and Luke.
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« Reply #137 on: February 21, 2022, 08:28:14 » |
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Beyond Eurnice - a new storm .... this dated 20th February 2022
They say it's as bad as the Great Storm of a couple of days ago. From ITVPotential 'Storm Gladys' could hit UK▸ just days after havoc of Storms Franklin, Eunice and Dudley That one too. |
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« Reply #138 on: February 21, 2022, 08:46:37 » |
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As part of the (virtual) cleanup and activity for the multiple storm, I have retitled this thread to cover the whole series of storms. I did consider splitting each into a separate thread, but it was hard to identify where one ended and the next started ....
Subject line liable to further amendment for Hubert, Ida, John, Keira and Luke.
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« Reply #139 on: February 21, 2022, 09:25:10 » |
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As part of the (virtual) cleanup and activity for the multiple storm, I have retitled this thread to cover the whole series of storms. I did consider splitting each into a separate thread, but it was hard to identify where one ended and the next started ....
And then there's the nameless interstorm stormlings, like last night's. SWR» are complaining about the trees that came down last night, including the one hit by a train at Sunningdale. And my neighbour has just lost four of the three fence panels that popped out of their slots for Eunice. But then trying to put fence panels back together without any new wood was never likely to work that well. |
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« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2022, 10:35:16 » |
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How big is a named storm? Franklin is a much bigger pressure system overall than Eunice, and even the fronts that gave yesterday's squalls appear to have been part of it. But media reporting is still mostly saying it's due further north and later today. Which, as an aside, is not exactly London-centric.
So does the name only apply to the part of the pressure system that gives the extreme weather that led to the naming? Or does it cover the outskirts, like the wiggle (or trough) that gave this mornings gusts over southern England, or yesterday's front line?
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« Reply #141 on: February 21, 2022, 12:01:58 » |
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All of it, the whole circulation.
Yellow warning from yesterday evening through to 1pm today, so last night was during the storm
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« Reply #142 on: February 21, 2022, 12:15:14 » |
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All of it, the whole circulation.
Yellow warning from yesterday evening through to 1pm today, so last night was during the storm
Except the yellow warning does not mention the name Franklin anywhere. It is timed at 9:43 yesterday, while the naming announcement was at 9:41. So the purpose of naming storms is ...? |
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« Reply #143 on: February 21, 2022, 12:16:48 » |
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So the purpose of naming storms is ...?
...so the media can make up catchy headlines. |
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« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2022, 17:34:04 » |
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So the purpose of naming storms is ...?
...so the media can make up catchy headlines. In part it is for media attention, but the real purpose is to try to shake an apathetic populace into realising that what is coming is potentially dangerous to life and limb. "There will be a deepening area of low pressure falling below 970 hPa with gusts of up to 60 knots" might frighten an aviator or a yachtsman, but isn't likely to have locals tying down the trampoline and taking a day off swimming in the sea. "Storm Eunice is going to bite you where it hurts if you don't listen to sense" might just help drive home the point, although not with the die-hard freedom fighters or nutters. A storm can be named by our very own Met Office, or by their Dutch or Irish equivalent depending on who cops it first. |
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« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2022, 19:35:59 » |
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Having an "official" British naming system (or as it turned out joint system with Ireland and then the Netherlands, plus co-ordinated wider afield) was prompted by the mess over the 27 and 28 October 2013 storm, which was variously referred to as "Christian", "Simone", "Carmen", "Allan", and "St Jude's" by various bodies across Europe.
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« Reply #146 on: February 21, 2022, 20:01:11 » |
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As Eunice was across other EU» countries other than the Netherlands!
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« Reply #147 on: February 21, 2022, 22:04:41 » |
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According to the Met Office: When is a storm named?
The criteria we use for naming storms is based on our National Severe Weather Warnings service. This is based on a combination of both the impact the weather may have, and the likelihood of those impacts occurring.
A storm will be named when it has the potential to cause an amber or red warning.
Other weather types will also be considered, specifically rain if its impact could lead to flooding as advised by the Environment Agency, SEPA and Natural Resources Wales flood warnings. Therefore 'storm systems' could be named on the basis of impacts from the wind but also include the impacts of rain and snow.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-storm-centre/index |
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« Reply #148 on: February 22, 2022, 12:19:48 » |
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As Eunice was across other EU» countries other than the Netherlands!
Germany is not part of any grouping or reciprocal arrangements, and still has the University of Free Berlin coming up with its own names. They probably feel miffed that everyone has stolen their concept. The Northern Group reserves the right to use another name if they judge another group has used a name that is unpronounceable, which they considered was the case for Eunice. |
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« Reply #149 on: February 22, 2022, 14:26:09 » |
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The Northern Group reserves the right to use another name if they judge another group has used a name that is unpronounceable, which they considered was the case for Eunice.
"Oy-knicker" wouldn't sound right. |
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