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Author Topic: OTD - 10th February (1941) - rear end collision, Harold Wood  (Read 1648 times)
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« on: February 09, 2022, 22:12:23 »

A wartime accident, first train stalled through lack of steam and stopped to build up more, second train behind it overruns signals and runs into the back of it. From Wikipedia:

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On 10 February 1941, seven people were killed and 19 seriously injured in a collision on the track between Harold Wood and Brentwood & Warley. An express train travelling from Liverpool Street to Norwich Thorpe came to a stand on the main line, unable to ascend the bank due to a shortage of steam, and about eight minutes later was run into from the rear by a Southend Victoria-bound stopping service which had passed a signal at danger. The speed of the Southend train was reported to have been around 30 mph, resulting in a violent collision. The driver of the Southend train was fully fit, highly experienced and should have noticed both the red signal and the stopped train ahead. He "fully admitted his responsibility for the collision" and according to a Ministry of War Transport investigation: "Such a grave lapse on the part of an experienced main line driver is difficult to explain."



Full report mirrored ((here)) for members. I note a fatalistic conclusion from the inspector - "I have no recommendations".  Not quite as simple as that - he does go on to condsider automatic train control, and make comment and a reminder of the need to protect trains as promptly as the circumstances will allow.  And the pragmatism is understandable with this being wartime.

Talking of train protection - when were detonators last used to protect trains, or are the still?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2022, 02:30:48 »

So far as I know, detonators and black powder cartridges are still in use.

About 15 years ago, my morning commute train broke down at Nailsea & Backwell station, so the relief train had to approach us 'wrong track'.  Our train manager / conductor had previously walked quite some distance up the track ahead of our train to attach those items to the tracks, as a required safety precaution.

The result was brilliant, to some of us passengers: it was like a Wild West gunfight out there, with flashes, bangs and clouds of powder-smoke!  Grin

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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