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« on: December 15, 2021, 07:54:07 »

Each of these is a unique service (in some way) or one of a very few. All are shown in current public timetables (to be 100% accurate, number 12 is shown in data feeds as it's not a high enough number to make the public reveal!).    I classify this quiz as more specialist and difficult than most, so please feel free to answer up to THREE each.

1. 2R23
2. 1V95
3. 1K71
4. 1B96
5. 1B97 (Sunday)
6. 2J00
7. 2O20
8. 1O98
9. 2F39
10. 1W16
11. 2K02
12. 5Y68
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2021, 08:21:54 »

11. 2k02  05:37 BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - SVB .
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2021, 08:26:37 »

2R23 1559 Filton Abbey Wood to Bath Spa direct avoiding Temple Meads
1V95 1041 Holyhead to Llanelli via Swansea District Line
2O20 0611 Swindon to Southampton Central only through service

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2021, 08:37:28 »

2R23 1559 Filton Abbey Wood to Bath Spa, plus another 5 around the country
1V95 1041 Holyhead to Llanelli
2O20 0611 Swindon to Southampton Central

Can you tell is what is different about each of those service (or perhaps it's one of the others with the same code that's different)?

11. 2k02  05:37 BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - SVB .

Is there something unusual about that train?   Is so, what?   If not, is 2K02 something else too?
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2021, 09:44:39 »

1B96: Swansea-Fishguard avoiding Carmarthen.
1B97: Fishguard-Cardiff avoiding Swansea.

Both as per http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2021.html .
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2021, 11:10:05 »

7. 2O20 is now the only Swindon to Southampton service (runs via Melksham)?
8. 1O98 is the only west bound Brighton service that runs over a complete westbound route?
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2021, 11:28:19 »

2R23: Starts & ends at the same station (WAT 1045 & 1211) but also 'runs as required' and is classified as an 'Unadvertised Ordinary Passenger' service.
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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2021, 11:36:27 »

7. 2O20 is now the only Swindon to Southampton service (runs via Melksham)?
8. 1O98 is the only west bound Brighton service that runs over a complete westbound route?

Both CORRECT.  It seems that even @GWRHelp don't know about "The Brighton":



and its running record is - err - not good:





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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2021, 12:28:58 »

A useful rule of thumb is

“Never assume a TOC (Train Operating Company) Twitter response comes from a suitably qualified person…”

That should be embarrassing for whoever has no real clue where Brighton is…
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2021, 12:37:34 »

1. Is the significance of the GWR (Great Western Railway) version of 2R23 that it runs direct avoiding Bristol Temple Meads, and is therefore of some rarity value?
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2021, 13:22:07 »

1K71 is the weekdays 05:10 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington service. It is now the only direct train between Bradford on Avon/Trowbridge and London. It is also unusual in another way as the train is not scheduled to stop at Bath Spa.
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2021, 13:26:51 »

1. Is the significance of the GWR (Great Western Railway) version of 2R23 that it runs direct avoiding Bristol Temple Meads, and is therefore of some rarity value?

Yes indeed - it is the scheduled "Parliamentary" train that takes the "Rhubarb Loop".
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2021, 13:37:55 »

1K71 is the weekdays 05:10 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington service. It is now the only direct train between Bradford on Avon/Trowbridge and London. It is also unusual in another way as the train is not scheduled to stop at Bath Spa.

Yes for both of those reasons.   I will admit to being an "armchair reader" in confirming it does not call at Bath Spa - that's just what I read, never having been at Bristol so early in the morning.

1B96: Swansea-Fishguard avoiding Carmarthen.
1B97: Fishguard-Cardiff avoiding Swansea.

Both as per http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2021.html .

Both correctly noted.   The Carmarthen avoider is clear.   There are two ways of avoiding Swansea - the Swansea District Line and the Landore loop.   One of the trains I've listed has to use the Landore curve because it calls at Gowerton,  another is said to normally run via the District Line but for operation reasons may go Landore.

Is it for historic reasons (boat trains headed for Cardiff and beyond) or modern convenience (they are the quietest trains to chose if SOMETHING has to leave out Carmarthen and Swansea) that we see Fishguard trains keep cropping up as the skippers?
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2021, 21:22:13 »

9.2F39 21:10 London Euston to St Albans Abbey. Is the newley introduced direct service the only through train of the day.
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2021, 21:26:39 »

10.1W16 1200 London Kings Cross to Inverness the only through train of the day.
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