Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 09:55 12 Jan 2025
 
- 'My partner hid and secretly waved off my ship': LGBT veteran monument revealed
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 14/01/25 - Rail Sale starts
24/01/25 - Westbury Station reopens
24/01/25 - LTP4 Wilts / Consultation end
24/01/25 - Bristol Rail Campaign AGM 2025

On this day
12th Jan (2009)
A quiet day in previous years (link)

Train RunningCancelled
09:05 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
09:21 Falmouth Docks to Truro
09:30 Bedwyn to Reading
12/01/25 10:55 Cardiff Central to Penzance
12/01/25 14:30 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids
15:20 Plymouth to Gunnislake
16:11 Gunnislake to Plymouth
12/01/25 17:09 Weston-Super-Mare to Severn Beach
17:23 Swansea to London Paddington
17:25 Cardiff Central to Trowbridge
17:44 Plymouth to Gunnislake
12/01/25 18:10 Weston-Super-Mare to Severn Beach
18:28 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
12/01/25 18:35 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads
18:35 Gunnislake to Plymouth
18:58 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads
19:35 Severn Beach to Bristol Temple Meads
20:08 Trowbridge to Cardiff Central
20:25 Avonmouth to Bristol Temple Meads
20:26 Exeter St Davids to Bristol Temple Meads
20:28 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
20:37 Trowbridge to Bristol Temple Meads
21:05 Weston-Super-Mare to Bristol Temple Meads
21:28 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads
22:00 London Paddington to Swansea
22:35 Bristol Temple Meads to Trowbridge
Short Run
08:00 Bristol Temple Meads to Penzance
08:15 Penzance to London Paddington
09:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Shrub Hill
09:43 Reading to Bedwyn
09:46 Exeter St Davids to Cardiff Central
11:50 Penzance to Cardiff Central
12/01/25 13:35 Severn Beach to Weston-Super-Mare
12/01/25 15:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
15:08 Trowbridge to Cardiff Central
12/01/25 15:10 Weston-Super-Mare to Severn Beach
15:28 London Paddington to Taunton
12/01/25 15:35 Severn Beach to Weston-Super-Mare
15:42 Exeter St Davids to Cardiff Central
15:53 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads
16:05 Trowbridge to Cardiff Central
12/01/25 16:35 Severn Beach to Weston-Super-Mare
17:28 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
17:55 Penzance to London Paddington
18:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
18:25 Cardiff Central to Trowbridge
18:57 Taunton to London Paddington
19:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
19:25 Cardiff Central to Trowbridge
Delayed
07:36 London Paddington to Great Malvern
07:47 London Paddington to Penzance
07:57 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids
08:40 Bristol Parkway to London Paddington
08:44 London Paddington to Great Malvern
08:46 London Paddington to Penzance
08:48 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
09:00 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
10:07 London Paddington to Bristol Parkway
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 10:10 Plymouth to London Paddington
10:12 Didcot Parkway to Reading
10:40 Bedwyn to Reading
10:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington
11:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington
etc
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 12, 2025, 09:58:20 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[226] Sunday Times Travel supplement - 14 page rail special
[103] Westminster Hall debate : Railway services to South West
[48] one pound flat rate bus fares in Devon and Torbay area.
[44] Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing dis...
[27] Mick Lynch announces retirement as head of RMT
[23] Rail passengers face another difficult year, warn MPs
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: As we head back to BR ... a new look for the logo  (Read 5053 times)
CyclingSid
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2101


Hockley viaduct


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2021, 18:43:00 »

Tut, tut. Corporate branding firms have got to make a living you know!
Logged
FarWestJohn
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 236


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2021, 19:03:34 »

What a mess.
Logged
johnneyw
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2459


From station to station, back to Bristol city....


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2021, 19:35:45 »

It seems to me that this logo is specifically to be used for the "green" publicity campaign and is no more likely to replace the original than an image of The Famous Five is destined to replace the current GWR (Great Western Railway) logo.
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8458



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2021, 06:43:57 »

It seems to me that this logo is specifically to be used for the "green" publicity campaign and is no more likely to replace the original than an image of The Famous Five is destined to replace the current GWR (Great Western Railway) logo.

Both will cost ridiculous amounts of money however.
Logged
Red Squirrel
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5456


There are some who call me... Tim


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2021, 12:24:29 »

It seems to me that this logo is specifically to be used for the "green" publicity campaign and is no more likely to replace the original than an image of The Famous Five is destined to replace the current GWR (Great Western Railway) logo.

Both will cost ridiculous amounts of money however.

Ridiculous?

Presumably both GWR and the RDG(resolve) measure the cost and effectiveness of their campaigns, and decide whether to continue funding them accordingly. GWR must think their 'Famous Five' campaign is worthwhile, or they wouldn't have relaunched it.

Logged

Things take longer to happen than you think they will, and then they happen faster than you thought they could.
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7372


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2021, 12:54:09 »

It seems to me that this logo is specifically to be used for the "green" publicity campaign and is no more likely to replace the original than an image of The Famous Five is destined to replace the current GWR (Great Western Railway) logo.

Both will cost ridiculous amounts of money however.

Ridiculous?

Presumably both GWR and the RDG(resolve) measure the cost and effectiveness of their campaigns, and decide whether to continue funding them accordingly. GWR must think their 'Famous Five' campaign is worthwhile, or they wouldn't have relaunched it.

I don't imagine National Rail/RDG/whatever next have that big a publicity budget to spend. It's a media campaign, so they have created a web site for it and poked a few journos in the ribs.

The launch material said:
Quote
With only weeks until COP26, the UN climate summit (1 – 12 November 2021) in Glasgow, people will see the iconic British Rail double arrow logo go green as rail companies bring home the message of how getting people and goods onto trains and off roads will help in the fight against climate change. Posters will be at stations, on board trains and across digital channels.

Thousands of delegates are expected to arrive at the event by train and while in Glasgow they will have the opportunity to take a trip on zero emissions hydrogen and battery trains which are being exhibited at COP. Prior to the climate summit, from 18-24 October, community groups will also be putting on a series of events across the country encouraging people to try the train as part of ‘green travel week’, organised by the Community Rail Network.

So presumably operating companies will do a few tweet-and-headline-targeted "events" on the same theme.
Logged
Lee
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7519


GBR - The Emperor's New Rail Network


View Profile WWW
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2021, 17:13:32 »

Perhaps they should look back at classic designs to demonstrate how far we have moved on in the modern era:



Then again...
Logged

Vous devez être impitoyable, parce que ces gens sont des salauds - https://looka.com/s/78722877
PhilWakely
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2140



View Profile
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2021, 18:28:59 »

I suggests somebody gets hold of a copy of this - I'll lend them mine if they can't find one......


Logged
paul7575
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5335


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2021, 18:51:27 »

If only their press release had included the word “ temporarily”, the rail enthusiast’s internet wouldn’t have slowed down at all…  Grin

Paul
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43091



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2021, 03:26:00 »

Reaction from the professionals in Design Week

Quote
Designers on British Rail’s logo update: “The worst sustainability-by-numbers thinking”

National Rail raised eyebrows this week with a green revamp of its logo – we spoke to designers including Astrid Stavro and Matt Baxter about the change.

But then ... doesn't the very fact it's generated such outrage prove that it's reaching people as intended  Tongue
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7372


View Profile
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2021, 11:31:38 »

Reaction from the professionals in Design Week

Quote
Designers on British Rail’s logo update: “The worst sustainability-by-numbers thinking”

National Rail raised eyebrows this week with a green revamp of its logo – we spoke to designers including Astrid Stavro and Matt Baxter about the change.

But then ... doesn't the very fact it's generated such outrage prove that it's reaching people as intended  Tongue

Perhaps it's understandable that "design" professionals should react to the design per se, and ignore the words. But even they are not justified (and still less other media) to dismiss it is only greenifying a logo and criticise the campaign as being nothing but the logo-tinkering, or as doing nothing to decarbonise the railways or attract passengers. In a literal sense no campaign ever does anything, it can only entice and prod others. Decrying the campaign for what it doesn't contain, and making it hard to find by not providing a link to it (while there is a link to other advers comment), looks distinctly self-serving.

It's as if they had not looked at the RDG(resolve)'s message at all! Mind you, the same is true of (almost?) everyone else too. If you do, it's surprising how much of it is pitched to government, to get them to simplify fares (in a particular RDG-preferred way), and start a rolling electrification program.

So, if you are a grouping of businesses which never had much control over how green your railway was, and will have less in the future, and as RDG have limited influence on anything, how do you put over such a message? You could also ask why they are bothering to. But ultimately the message (like most anti-apple-pie campaigns) isn't good news in itself, so any headlines grabbed will be about something else - this logo, a claim too far over the top, or of course "demonstrating" as now understood by the self-righteous. 

Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page