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« Reply #360 on: May 23, 2021, 11:28:58 » |
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As ever, you need to take Journeycheck with a pinch of salt - for example, the 11:03 PAD» -PLY» and 15:10 PLY-PAD are being operated with a 9-car, not a 5-car as listed.
If anyone’s out and about it would be interesting to know how busy the trains are?
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« Reply #361 on: May 23, 2021, 11:48:45 » |
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And a few West Country cancellations of 'local trains' due to staff shortage.
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« Reply #362 on: May 23, 2021, 12:58:23 » |
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As ever, you need to take Journeycheck with a pinch of salt - for example, the 11:03 PAD» -PLY» and 15:10 PLY-PAD are being operated with a 9-car, not a 5-car as listed.
If anyone’s out and about it would be interesting to know how busy the trains are?
Trains heading north and east from Totnes are very busy. |
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« Reply #363 on: May 23, 2021, 15:43:18 » |
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Can I ask how busy? Full and standing busy, or social distancing maximums busy?
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« Reply #364 on: May 23, 2021, 16:43:12 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
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« Reply #365 on: May 23, 2021, 16:52:15 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
Hopefully they can sort this out in time for next (Bank Holiday) weekend and half term. |
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« Reply #366 on: May 23, 2021, 17:12:35 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
Hopefully they can sort this out in time for next (Bank Holiday) weekend and half term. Seems unlikely in my view. All GWR▸ IETs▸ have been inspected and those judged fit for use are presumably back in service. No near term plans for repairs, certainly not by next weekend. It therefore seems unlikely that availability of IETs will increase significantly by next weekend. There might be a slight increase if units stopped for routine service or unrelated mechanical issues return to availability by next weekend. Extra rolling stock was considered but with little result. Two sets of loco hauled coaches hired from Riviera trains were proposed but presumably considered too embarrassing/too expensive/too hard. A couple of full length loco hauled trains would provide a lot of extra capacity, embarrassing though. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #367 on: May 23, 2021, 17:37:35 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
Hopefully they can sort this out in time for next (Bank Holiday) weekend and half term. Seems unlikely in my view. All GWR▸ IETs▸ have been inspected and those judged fit for use are presumably back in service. No near term plans for repairs, certainly not by next weekend. It therefore seems unlikely that availability of IETs will increase significantly by next weekend. There might be a slight increase if units stopped for routine service or unrelated mechanical issues return to availability by next weekend. Extra rolling stock was considered but with little result. Two sets of loco hauled coaches hired from Riviera trains were proposed but presumably considered too embarrassing/too expensive/too hard. A couple of full length loco hauled trains would provide a lot of extra capacity, embarrassing though. I thought you were arranging assistance from The Flying Scotsman and Tornado? |
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« Reply #368 on: May 23, 2021, 17:39:41 » |
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Efforts to secure additional stock are still ongoing. I don't think it'll be loco and coaches unless things get really desperate as they are expensive and slow. Some more Hitachi units borrowed from somewhere, TPE▸ perhaps, could be an option? Or more 387s.
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« Reply #369 on: May 23, 2021, 17:47:52 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
Hopefully they can sort this out in time for next (Bank Holiday) weekend and half term. Seems unlikely in my view. All GWR▸ IETs▸ have been inspected and those judged fit for use are presumably back in service. No near term plans for repairs, certainly not by next weekend. It therefore seems unlikely that availability of IETs will increase significantly by next weekend. There might be a slight increase if units stopped for routine service or unrelated mechanical issues return to availability by next weekend. Extra rolling stock was considered but with little result. Two sets of loco hauled coaches hired from Riviera trains were proposed but presumably considered too embarrassing/too expensive/too hard. A couple of full length loco hauled trains would provide a lot of extra capacity, embarrassing though. I thought you were arranging assistance from The Flying Scotsman and Tornado? He had Tornado out yesterday for testing... https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/05/steam-locomotive-60163-tornado-to-pass-through-york-and-carlisle-this-saturday.html |
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« Reply #370 on: May 23, 2021, 18:13:08 » |
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Looking at Tiger at Swindon I have seen one service to Weston super Mare and two from Bristol reported as full and standing this afternoon.
All formed of five coaches.
Edit to add: Also 1C22 Pad to Plymouth via Bristol. Also 5 coaches.
Three questions, bearing in mind each 5 car train ahas around 320 seats, perhaps 100 with social distancing 1. Does "full" mean there are over 100 people on the train, or over 300? 2. When someone presses a button / selecting from a menu to say that a train is beyond capacity and flag it into the system, does it automatically come up with the phrase "full and standing" ... even if in reality under Covid there are 150 people on the train and they'll all be seated - but too close to each other under current guidelines? 3. Are the 100 v 300 figures on social distancing used to make the judgement of what's allowed, even if the leisure travellers - much seen at the weekend - are travelling in bubbles that do not need to distance between each other? |
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« Reply #371 on: May 23, 2021, 19:33:31 » |
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Can I ask how busy? Full and standing busy, or social distancing maximums busy?
Not quite full and standing, but most seats taken, so exceeding social distancing maximums. |
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« Reply #372 on: May 23, 2021, 19:36:37 » |
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Good questions, Graham.
I must admit I’ve seen nothing getting remotely busy enough where all seats are close to being taken, but I’m a long way from Cornwall so appreciate it might be different down there.
Thanks for that info, Phil.
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« Reply #373 on: May 24, 2021, 09:32:19 » |
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There was talk about 387s running to Bristol Parkway, and as of today they are: the first return trip is about to start. They seem to be running the few such IET▸ services in the timetable, which last week were often cancelled. Those didn't all call at Didcot, but now these do, taking three minutes extra. They have also been allowed seven minutes more on account of being slower stock. |
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« Reply #374 on: May 24, 2021, 10:20:59 » |
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387 152 paired with 387 165 preparing to leave Bristol Parkway with the 10:19 to London Paddington (running as 9L43)  |
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