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« Reply #630 on: August 01, 2023, 15:34:01 » |
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Quite apart from the folly of suggesting a 12% reduction in standard class seating at a time where some leisure trains are already packed to the rafters, I'd love to see a crayonista make that work as an actual working design!
No problem, GWR▸ are experts at making that happen. GWR promised "more seats" for Portsmouth - Cardiff, they did manage that.............with 5 abreast seating rolling stock instead of 4 abreast !!!!! The fact that most of these "extra" seats are unusable by normal sized human beings - we'll ignore that. Average journey time London to Swansea is about 30 mins less than Portsmouth to Cardiff..............could almost manage 6 abreast seating for that short trip  I would say that GWR are trying to emulate Ryanair - but they are actually way ahead already. Michael O'Leary has merely floated the idea of having standing passengers on his Boeings - GWR have already achieved that on most of their trains already. |
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« Reply #631 on: August 01, 2023, 19:00:51 » |
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No problem, GWR▸ are experts at making that happen. GWR promised "more seats" for Portsmouth - Cardiff, they did manage that.............with 5 abreast seating rolling stock instead of 4 abreast !!!!! The fact that most of these "extra" seats are unusable by normal sized human beings - we'll ignore that. Average journey time London to Swansea is about 30 mins less than Portsmouth to Cardiff..............could almost manage 6 abreast seating for that short trip I would say that GWR are trying to emulate Ryanair - but they are actually way ahead already. Michael O'Leary has merely floated the idea of having standing passengers on his Boeings - GWR have already achieved that on most of their trains already. You are correct in what you say….. except a lot of the decisions aren’t GWR’s. They are being micromanaged by the DfT» and have been for many years. The DfT calls the shots, they are the ones dictating what happens. The DfT says the Castle sets have to go. No replacement sorted, stretch the fleet as thin as it’ll go and make it work. This will become more and more apparent. |
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« Reply #632 on: August 01, 2023, 19:35:33 » |
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No problem, GWR▸ are experts at making that happen. GWR promised "more seats" for Portsmouth - Cardiff, they did manage that.............with 5 abreast seating rolling stock instead of 4 abreast !!!!! The fact that most of these "extra" seats are unusable by normal sized human beings - we'll ignore that. Average journey time London to Swansea is about 30 mins less than Portsmouth to Cardiff..............could almost manage 6 abreast seating for that short trip I would say that GWR are trying to emulate Ryanair - but they are actually way ahead already. Michael O'Leary has merely floated the idea of having standing passengers on his Boeings - GWR have already achieved that on most of their trains already. A shame you were also one of our regular posters who were unable/unwilling to directly question the GWR MD with your concerns last week. |
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« Reply #633 on: August 01, 2023, 19:57:53 » |
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A shame you were also one of our regular posters who were unable/unwilling to directly question the GWR▸ MD with your concerns last week. To be fair, II, a-driver has indicated in his post just before yours what the answer would be - it's what DfT» tells us to do. Perhaps the next time Mark Harper shows up for a photo opp at a station opening in our area he could be invited to participate in a session with our forum like "our" Mark H to answer these questions? |
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« Reply #634 on: August 01, 2023, 20:38:51 » |
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No problem, GWR▸ are experts at making that happen. GWR promised "more seats" for Portsmouth - Cardiff, they did manage that.............with 5 abreast seating rolling stock instead of 4 abreast !!!!! The fact that most of these "extra" seats are unusable by normal sized human beings - we'll ignore that. Average journey time London to Swansea is about 30 mins less than Portsmouth to Cardiff..............could almost manage 6 abreast seating for that short trip I would say that GWR are trying to emulate Ryanair - but they are actually way ahead already. Michael O'Leary has merely floated the idea of having standing passengers on his Boeings - GWR have already achieved that on most of their trains already. You are correct in what you say….. except a lot of the decisions aren’t GWR’s. They are being micromanaged by the DfT» and have been for many years. The DfT calls the shots, they are the ones dictating what happens. The DfT says the Castle sets have to go. No replacement sorted, stretch the fleet as thin as it’ll go and make it work. This will become more and more apparent. Not sure it is DfT I suspect the decision is made in the Treasury who of course know so much about everything we wonder why any other government department exists. |
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« Reply #635 on: August 02, 2023, 07:13:20 » |
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A shame you were also one of our regular posters who were unable/unwilling to directly question the GWR▸ MD with your concerns last week. To be fair, II, a-driver has indicated in his post just before yours what the answer would be - it's what DfT» tells us to do. Perhaps the next time Mark Harper shows up for a photo opp at a station opening in our area he could be invited to participate in a session with our forum like "our" Mark H to answer these questions? Just a thought.....perhaps it should be Hopwood challenging Harper. |
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« Reply #636 on: August 02, 2023, 08:04:00 » |
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Just a thought.....perhaps it should be Hopwood challenging Harper.
I would suspect that questions have been asked from GWR▸ to the DfT» . Should we invite Mark Harper to a "Meet the Secretary of State" session? |
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« Reply #637 on: August 02, 2023, 09:46:52 » |
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Go on, he can only say no. I'd be interested in reading anything more he had to say.
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« Reply #638 on: August 02, 2023, 15:36:31 » |
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Go on, he can only say no. I'd be interested in reading anything more he had to say.
To be fair, as a politician, he’d be incapable of providing a simple yes or no answer!! |
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« Reply #639 on: August 02, 2023, 15:48:42 » |
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Yup, my point exactly!
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« Reply #640 on: August 03, 2023, 09:10:07 » |
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Indeed. Low power. A problem that a number of the fleet are suffering.
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« Reply #641 on: August 03, 2023, 10:05:21 » |
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Indeed. Low power. A problem that a number of the fleet are suffering.
Wondering if LNER» are also experiencing this, with theirs. Mark Their diesel mileage percentage must be quite a bit lower. You don’t really notice an engine out on a 9 or 10-car service anyway though. You do notice if two or more are our, but that’s fairly rare IME▸ . |
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« Reply #642 on: August 03, 2023, 10:44:50 » |
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Indeed. Low power. A problem that a number of the fleet are suffering.
Wondering if LNER» are also experiencing this, with theirs. Mark Their diesel mileage percentage must be quite a bit lower. You don’t really notice an engine out on a 9 or 10-car service anyway though. You do notice if two or more are our, but that’s fairly rare IME▸ . LNER have two sets with an engine isolated, but as IndustryInsider said, they spend most of the time under the wires. You notice 1 engine out on the steeper gradients on the network and where linespeeds are 100/110mph. |
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« Reply #643 on: August 03, 2023, 12:35:03 » |
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Just a thought.....perhaps it should be Hopwood challenging Harper.
I would suspect that questions have been asked from GWR▸ to the DfT» . Should we invite Mark Harper to a "Meet the Secretary of State" session? Go on, he can only say no. I'd be interested in reading anything more he had to say.
Having checked around with the moderator / admin team (onto whom the organising would fall), we have gone ahead and sent an invite. It was actually quite a useful exercise in defining the Coffee Shop to an expert newcomer. |
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« Reply #644 on: August 04, 2023, 11:24:15 » |
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This service is making extra stops and picking up passengers (somehow I don’t think it will) from the cancelled 08:35 Plymouth-Paddington. What a time for this to be a 5 vice 10 if JC is correct  07:10 Penzance to London Paddington due 12:29 will be diverted between Castle Cary and Pewsey.
It will call additionally at Castle Cary, Westbury and Pewsey.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 10 minutes late.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
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