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Author Topic: Inline expansion of abbreviations and acronyms  (Read 16506 times)
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« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2021, 21:06:10 »

I think the only amusingly wrong one I've giggled at lately was BSK (Basingstoke station, or Brake Standard Corridor (carriage), depending on context) (as in the CRS code for Basingstoke) suddenly becoming a Mk I Brake Third Corridor. I think I prefer Basingstoke...

Edit: I just want to say how brilliant the expansion of abbreviations is – I really appreciate it, towns in north Hampshire and old rolling stock notwithstanding!
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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2021, 18:06:39 »

Over 950 abbreviations and acronyms are now listed at http://www.passenger.chat/acronyms.html - an increase of over 250 in the last three months - thanks to VickiS. Over 750 of them expand inline for guests and just under 720 for members. Whilst we *have* provided an option for members to turn the expansion off, only a few have done so as far as I can see - I've taken a brief snapshot and just 63 of the last 800 pages served to members have not been expanded, and those I'm pretty sure the 63 are by 'railgeeks' who don't need them.  Over 18,000 pages have been served to guests in the same time (since 8 a.m. this morning / it's  4 p.m. as I write this) and they're a mixture of real people not logged in, and spiders which index us to feed the search engines.

VickiS jumped in to the deep end with this project and as well as adding the hundreds of new clarifications has updated links and desciptions of others. Just about all recent acronymns / abbreviations are now listed - though those of "archive" age may still contain the occasional "what's that?" - so it's a completed upgrade, with a much lower key care and maintenance into the future.  And so onwards and upwards to further projects.
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« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2021, 10:47:37 »

Congratulations and thanks to VickiS.
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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2021, 17:16:26 »

Yes, thanks for your hard work, VickiS.  Bloody good work, or BGW as I like to say.  Wink
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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2021, 21:30:06 »

As long as you don’t list the “rail geeks” then Grahame… Grin

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« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2021, 11:23:21 »

I was just trying to post a link to Raildar to land on Reading's junction map, which would be https://raildar.co.uk/map/RDG. But that gets garbled by a failed attempt to resolve RDG., and isn't a live link (as you can see). The fix of putting a null escape string into RDG breaks the link. Having found an alternative, I shall leave that as an observation.
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« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2021, 17:35:35 »

I was just trying to post a link to Raildar to land on Reading's junction map, which would be https://raildar.co.uk/map/RDG. But that gets garbled by a failed attempt to resolve RDG., and isn't a live link (as you can see). The fix of putting a null escape string into RDG breaks the link. Having found an alternative, I shall leave that as an observation.

Yes - I know the issue.  It's only come up occasionally and there's work to do to fix it - with a danger of replacing one "undocumented feature" by others.  For the moment, I'm suggesting members mention the code that's causing the problem a bit earlier in their post so it won't expand in the link
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« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2025, 19:12:52 »

I'm rather startled to start posting this update, only to be warned,
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That's rather embarrassing on my part - I should have started this latest 'project' some time ago.  Embarrassed

However, I am now working on it, with grahame's full approval (it's his forum, after all!).  Wink

There is one issue that I discovered quite early, though: the forum software we use cannot distinguish between two (or more) expansions of the same abbreviation or acronym.  I've therefore had to adopt a compromise solution, including both (or more) expansions, with the caveat 'depending on the context'.

Perhaps the most extreme example so far was 'SR (Southern Railway / Southern Region / Scot Rail / Scottish Region (rather confusing - it depends on the context))', where I've had to update the expansion text to 'Southern Railway / Southern Region / Scot Rail / Scottish Region (rather confusing - it depends on the context)'.

I hope all this updating helps, nevertheless.

CfN.  Wink
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« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2025, 19:37:37 »

Further to my previous post here:

I know I'm going to regret this offer, but bearing in mind it's been a while since ongoing updates were made (VickiS moved back to Sweden - with my renewed thanks for all her previous work here!), if any of our members have any new, or updated, abbreviations / acronyms and their expansions ...

Please send details to me - by personal message, rather than e-mail - and I'll add them at the next opportunity (generally, within a day).

CfN.  Smiley
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 09:00:37 »

The correct name being CAF (Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles, Spanish train manufacturer) (Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles), the Spanish train manufacturer.

Now duly added to the Coffee Shop forum's 'abbreviations & acronyms' page. Wink

But will the railway staff version be added please?

Is there an officisl "Railpersons list of abbreviations and acronymns" ...

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Railway-Terms.xls
https://wiki.openraildata.com/index.php/Acronyms
https://safety.networkrail.co.uk/tools-resources/jargon-buster/
https://mmpa.org.uk/jargon.html
https://gbrtt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Glossary-and-terms-explained.pdf
http://www.railway-technical.com/glossary/laar-mk24.pdf
https://communityraillancashire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Acronyms-v-15.pdf
https://adayontherailway.wordpress.com/glossary-of-railway-terms/

Vicki, Chris and others have done an excellent job of adding the commonly used acronyms in both railway and web/it space onto our list for expansion withing posts.  It's very much a question of judgement what to include and what not, and it needs to match our purpose rather than be overcluttered.

Out of personal entertainment, I has a look through a handful off abbreviations to see how many messages they occurr in - clearly there are many current and many historic:
AcORP - 556
GBRTT - 21
GWR (Great Western Railway) - 19470
RDG (Rail Delivery Group, or Reading station, depending on the context) - 1637
WTT (Working Time-Table) - 377
ZEMU - 0
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« Reply #70 on: Yesterday at 10:31:56 »

Out of personal entertainment, I has a look through a handful off abbreviations to see how many messages they occurr in - clearly there are many current and many historic:
RDG (Rail Delivery Group, or Reading station, depending on the context) - 1637

So, if the Rail Delivery Group decided to relaunch themselves and met with the Retail Design Group at Reading station, before going on to a sporting fixture with the Royal Dragoon Guards, what would the shorthand report look like  Grin
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« Reply #71 on: Yesterday at 15:19:27 »

So, if the Rail Delivery Group decided to relaunch themselves and met with the Retail Design Group at Reading station, before going on to a sporting fixture with the Royal Dragoon Guards, what would the shorthand report look like  Grin

I forgot to mention that, in these days of Artificial Insemination Intelligence, the reporter of the above activities is a Second Generation Android, R2D2G2
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« Reply #72 on: Yesterday at 16:00:20 »

Please add the jealousy acronym from certain members of staff.

FESW.

Front End Seat Warmer, ie your driver.
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« Reply #73 on: Yesterday at 16:38:37 »

Some acronyms conjure up visions ...

Mobile Operations Manager in Moreton in Marsh
A right wing rally in Barnstaple
First Group trains calling 1 station before the ferry to Ireland
Passenger Information systems than are unduly optimistic
A really cheap one way ticket to the Isle of Sheppey
Shorthand for a ststion in the Conwy Valley
A cake laden with currants and a passenger train without passengers
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