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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2021, 18:57:55 »
I've not seen it do anything, and that's in Firefox. My immediate thought was that I've disabled a bell or whistle that this relies on, since I prefer to not enable clever stuff unless I know it's useful.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2021, 20:17:14 »
Quote from: grahame on March 13, 2021, 13:47:01
Quote from: bignosemac on March 13, 2021, 13:44:56
No worky for me on desktop or mobile Chrome.

Yeah ... is it filling them in fully every time, or never filling them in?  It's limited in what / where I'm testing it with as it need to be tested across a variety of places and lots of debugging to do!

On a Windows 10 PC
Chrome & Edge: Shows the abbreviated meaning in brackets without mouseover
Internet Explorer: It works. Mouse over shows the abbreviated meaning with a yellow highlight

I'd forgotten Internet Explorer was still on my computer!
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2021, 23:21:20 »
Aha! CRTL-F5 and it works for me!
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2021, 00:49:39 »
Quote from: Robin Summerhill on March 14, 2021, 00:16:52
Whilst all these posts written in computer speak may be riveting fr some, this thread has been completely hijacked by them. Can I suggest we split them off onto a new thread?

And unfortunately I posted an on-topic railway and Temple Meads related question just before it all kicked off, which no-one has addressed. This could be of course bebecause no-one knows the answer, or it could have completely forgotten because of all the awe-inspiring discussion on Firefox version z point x, apples and Mackintoshes (might be interesting if you’re trying to eat one when its raining...) RS232 interface leads, or whatever.

By the way, I’ve never heard of a mouseover before. I think our cat prefers mice under rather than over her, but when I asked her she only said meow. Or it could have been meow meow – I can’t remember the details of the conversation

Obviously time to get out the rail topic replacement bus...
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2021, 00:56:51 »
Quote from: Robin Summerhill on March 14, 2021, 00:16:52
By the way, I’ve never heard of a mouseover before.

I think there may some fuzzy terminology.   "Mouseover" is Javascript but I am hoping to be able to use a lighter weight "hover" from CSS▸ (Cascading Style Sheets) . Time will tell.

Tongue noted in cheek. Sorting out the pickle (which is getting worser by the hour) in the morning.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2021, 08:19:57 »
Quote from: Red Squirrel on March 13, 2021, 23:21:20
Aha! CRTL-F5 and it works for me!

And for me
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2021, 09:48:57 »
I have now split off all the responses on browser and compatibility into this thread, leaving  http://www.passenger.chat/24775 for the architecture at Bristol Temple Meads.  The testing / changes for the most part are to be seen / tested there.  I have also added a new switch for members to switch the resolution 'service' off and on, and an information page for it.

For the sake of having a example here for you to try ... MKM» (Melksham (Station code) - next trains) should resolve but without a link and MRUG» (Melksham Rail User Group - site) should resolve and additionally provide a link to explore further.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2021, 11:02:11 »
Quote from: grahame on March 14, 2021, 09:48:57
I have also added a new switch for members to switch the resolution 'service' off and on, and an information page for it.

For the sake of having a example here for you to try ... MKM» (Melksham (Station code) - next trains) should resolve but without a link and MRUG» (Melksham Rail User Group - site) should resolve and additionally provide a link to explore further.

I now have it working, following CTRL▸ (Channel Tunnel Rail Link, or possibly 'Control', depending on context)-F5 - presumably not logging out means something outside page content never got loaded (the stylesheets?). The turn on/off switch, however, doesn't do so reliably.  Yet - I'll assume that's work in progress. Some combination of full page reloads (not CTRL-F5) and switch poking seems to be required.

More fundamentally, the pop-out link for MRUG appears, but on the next line of text. It vanishes before the mouse can reach it. Playing cat and mouse, but in reverse! Resizing the window obviously does overcome that, though, if you can.
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2021, 11:07:32 »
Quote from: stuving on March 14, 2021, 11:02:11
I now have it working, following CTRL▸ (Channel Tunnel Rail Link, or possibly 'Control', depending on context)-F5 - presumably not logging out means something outside page content never got loaded (the stylesheets?).

Ah - YES - there is new stuff in the style sheets that will have been cached

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More fundamentally, the pop-out link for MRUG» (Melksham Rail User Group - site) appears, but on the next line of text. It vanishes before the mouse can reach it. Playing cat and mouse, but in reverse! Resizing the window obviously does overcome that, though, if you can.

Oh - that's a good'un.  I will need to play. May be better if I switch a space to a none-breaking space ... 
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2021, 11:58:11 »
Quote from: grahame on March 13, 2021, 16:59:27
Quote from: TonyN on March 13, 2021, 16:32:37
Works correctly on my Windows 10 PC in Firefox, Chrome and Edge.

Links are expanded on my Android phone I only have Chrome.

Thanks, Tony ... I'm going to have to go through loads of compatibility tables, scour our home for forgotten devices, cross Lisa'a palm with chocolate and Pistachios and a promise of a trip on the Orient Express to have her look on all the technology she's surrounded with.    My usual rule is "keep the HTML▸ (Hypertext Markup Language) simple to render anywhere" but in this case some mucking about with CSS▸ (Cascading Style Sheets) can bring significant benefits to many, provided it does not screw things up for a few.

Errrr...*not* working here on Edge with Windows 10. Permanently expanded on Edge (and it's a right pain when there are a lot of them)
However, working perfectly on Firefox. Don't have Chrome installed.
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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2021, 12:04:25 »
Quote from: ChrisB on March 14, 2021, 11:58:11

Errrr...*not* working here on Edge with Windows 10. Permanently expanded on Edge (and it's a right pain when there are a lot of them)
However, working perfectly on Firefox. Don't have Chrome installed.


Thanks, ChrisB - have you done a "shift reload" on Edge to pull in the new style sheets?   Agreed it can be a pain - hence the "turn off" option - but I would much rather you didn't have to!
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2021, 13:09:42 »
Was permanently expanded for me on Opera. Used the Ctrl-F5 trick upthread and it now works. Also to note that turning the function on and off kicks me off the thread I'm looking at and sends me back to the home page.
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2021, 13:15:41 »
Quote from: Bmblbzzz on March 14, 2021, 13:09:42
Was permanently expanded for me on Opera. Used the Ctrl-F5 trick upthread and it now works. Also to note that turning the function on and off kicks me off the thread I'm looking at and sends me back to the home page.

Yes, Caching.

From the documentation on the new facility ...

Quote from: grahame on March 14, 2021, 09:31:39
I know that this change takes you back to the forum home page - live with that for the moment, though, please; your choice IS remembered so you only need to do it once.

... one of those things that looks and sounds so easy to fix until you / I get into the code.
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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2021, 16:26:30 »
Quote from: eXPassenger on March 13, 2021, 17:55:45
Have you switched the test off?  I can find no mouseover events using the latest build of MS Edge.

I have now used Ctrl F5 and it is working, thank you.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2021, 17:38:41 »
I'd just like to add, cos I don't think I said it before, that the aim is a good one. Thanks.
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