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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2008, 08:26:20 »

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Voyagers are, without doubt, the WORST trains on the UK (United Kingdom) rail system.

"Without doubt"? Shouldn't that be "In my opinion"? I quite like them, and they're infinitely better than a 142 on jointed track!

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not exactly helping Virgin's/XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))'s poor punctuality

I travel from between Barnstaple and Leeds quite often; last Friday we left Leeds 15 minutes late and got to Exeter St Davids nearly two minutes late (the least punctual it's been on my last ten or so trips). FGWs (First Great Western) connecting train left Exmouth on time, and lost six minutes by the time it got to St Davids...

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*The internal doors shut on you if you are queuing to alight

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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2008, 08:36:42 »

Ummmmm business people can offset the fare against tax,

The tax rules don't allow a complete offset of the fare, they merely mean that the fare costs the company or businessperson 20% or 40% less (depending on whether they are a basic or higher rate tax payer).   Ie if I earn ^60,000 but spend ^5,000 pa on business travel, I get taxed on ^55,000 rather than ^60,000.  ^5,000 of my money goes to teh train company in place of ^2,000 geoing to the taxman The revenue will only grant you tax relief on first class fares if you can demonstrate a business reason for needing to travel first class.

Not strictly true

I have been doing this forseveral years and had a few expense enquiries - whilst they have thrown out evening meals (when staying away) because "the food items require a domestic kitchen" (they dont seem to consider the concept of a microwave in the office kitchen) I have NEVER been asked to justify a first class ticket

However, just because I CAN offset against tax, it should not give the train companies a chance to fleece me.

Additionally, you can only offset against tax if you are self employed or run a business - feel for employees who have to use the train
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2008, 18:19:04 »

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Voyagers are, without doubt, the WORST trains on the UK (United Kingdom) rail system.
"Without doubt"? Shouldn't that be "In my opinion"? I quite like them, and they're infinitely better than a 142 on jointed track!
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not exactly helping Virgin's/XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))'s poor punctuality
I travel from between Barnstaple and Leeds quite often; last Friday we left Leeds 15 minutes late and got to Exeter St Davids nearly two minutes late (the least punctual it's been on my last ten or so trips). FGWs (First Great Western) connecting train left Exmouth on time, and lost six minutes by the time it got to St Davids...

Well, it is my opinion of course! I think comparing a Pacer to anything is a little unfair. Grin

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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2008, 18:32:22 »

Well, it is my opinion of course! I think comparing a Pacer to anything is a little unfair. Grin

I actually think they are better than a 150 or 153, if in 4-car formation, which a lot are. They actually work well on the Devon Metro.
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« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2008, 18:34:20 »

Well, it is my opinion of course! I think comparing a Pacer to anything is a little unfair. Grin

I actually think they are better than a 150 or 153, if in 4-car formation, which a lot are. They actually work well on the Devon Metro.

Well ok. What I am saying, is that you can't compare branch line/devon services and its trains, with long distance trains.
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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2008, 18:40:09 »

Well, it is my opinion of course! I think comparing a Pacer to anything is a little unfair. Grin

I actually think they are better than a 150 or 153, if in 4-car formation, which a lot are. They actually work well on the Devon Metro.

Well ok. What I am saying, is that you can't compare branch line/devon services and its trains, with long distance trains.
No you can't.
But I would rather sit on a Pacer for Paignton-Exeter than a Voyager.
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« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2008, 18:40:51 »

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Voyagers are, without doubt, the WORST trains on the UK (United Kingdom) rail system.

"Without doubt"? Shouldn't that be "In my opinion"? I quite like them, and they're infinitely better than a 142 on jointed track!

Quote from: Btline
not exactly helping Virgin's/XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))'s poor punctuality

I travel from between Barnstaple and Leeds quite often; last Friday we left Leeds 15 minutes late and got to Exeter St Davids nearly two minutes late (the least punctual it's been on my last ten or so trips). FGWs (First Great Western) connecting train left Exmouth on time, and lost six minutes by the time it got to St Davids...

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*The internal doors shut on you if you are queuing to alight

They make a satisfying grinding noise if you shove them open, though Smiley

XC has a LOT of slack timing in its timetable, often over 20 minutes from start to finish. Devon local services on the other hand do not!
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« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2008, 23:08:19 »

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Voyagers are, without doubt, the WORST trains on the UK (United Kingdom) rail system.

"Without doubt"? Shouldn't that be "In my opinion"? I quite like them, and they're infinitely better than a 142 on jointed track!

Quote from: Btline
not exactly helping Virgin's/XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))'s poor punctuality

I travel from between Barnstaple and Leeds quite often; last Friday we left Leeds 15 minutes late and got to Exeter St Davids nearly two minutes late (the least punctual it's been on my last ten or so trips). FGWs (First Great Western) connecting train left Exmouth on time, and lost six minutes by the time it got to St Davids...

Quote from: Btline
*The internal doors shut on you if you are queuing to alight

They make a satisfying grinding noise if you shove them open, though Smiley

XC has a LOT of slack timing in its timetable, often over 20 minutes from start to finish. Devon local services on the other hand do not!

Another reason why you can't compare the two.
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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2008, 16:28:39 »

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XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) has a LOT of slack timing in its timetable, often over 20 minutes from start to finish.

Good. It means that when they say they'll get me to my destination at a particular time they are more likely than not to keep their promise.

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Devon local services on the other hand do not!

And whose fault is that?
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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2008, 16:41:02 »

No idea whos fault it is, Slack is bad in my opinion and XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) is just stupid.
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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2008, 18:05:56 »

Slack is very bad.

Slack timetable = Slack operation = Delay
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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2008, 18:43:44 »

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XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) has a LOT of slack timing in its timetable, often over 20 minutes from start to finish.

Good. It means that when they say they'll get me to my destination at a particular time they are more likely than not to keep their promise.

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Devon local services on the other hand do not!

And whose fault is that?
If they put slack into the Devon metro then everyone would moan that they've increased journey times!!
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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2008, 21:59:28 »

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XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) has a LOT of slack timing in its timetable, often over 20 minutes from start to finish.

Good. It means that when they say they'll get me to my destination at a particular time they are more likely than not to keep their promise.

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Devon local services on the other hand do not!

And whose fault is that?
If they put slack into the Devon metro then everyone would moan that they've increased journey times!!
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