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This thread is addictive ... the West Somerset Mineral Railway ... open from Watchet from 1861 (1865 for passengers) to 1898 ... seems to fit the in area, standard gauge, closed very early, some unusual features like an incline on their main line.
Your turn to beat me to it, grahame! I'm betting 50p it's the one lympstone_commander was thinking of. |
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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2020, 05:27:14 » |
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This thread is addictive ... the West Somerset Mineral Railway ... open from Watchet from 1861 (1865 for passengers) to 1898 ... seems to fit the in area, standard gauge, closed very early, some unusual features like an incline on their main line.
Your turn to beat me to it, grahame! I'm betting 50p it's the one lympstone_commander was thinking of. A fascinating suggestion from grahame (I'm learning about lots of railways I didn't even know existed), but I'm afraid it isn't the one and BNM loses his 50p. I can add some more clues (in bold): - in our area - standard gauge - carried passengers - has an unusual characteristic with regard to its relationship with the rest of the network - closed remarkably early (during the 20th century) - worked by adhesion throughout |
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2020, 07:43:19 » |
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I can add some more clues (in bold):
- in our area
- standard gauge
- carried passengers
- has an unusual characteristic with regard to its relationship with the rest of the network
- closed remarkably early (during the 20th century)
- worked by adhesion throughout
Most tramways were narrower gauge 3'6" being the most common. However, at standard gauge: Leamington & Warwick Tramways & Omnibus Company, 1881 - 1930 Weston-super-Mare & District Electric Supply Co Ltd 1902 - 1937 Bath Electric Tramways Company 1904 - 1939 Southampton Corporation Tramways 1898 - 1949 (31.12); horse drawn different co, from 1879 (5.5) This will have been closed longer than open (by my calculation) in about 10 days time. Edit to add ... 2 railways on Jersey and one on Guernsey fit the bill ... Alderney remains open. |
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2020, 08:53:26 » |
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Most tramways were narrower gauge 3'6" being the most common.
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Edit to add ... 2 railways on Jersey and one on Guernsey fit the bill ... Alderney remains open.
Great answers, but not the one I'm thinking of, for which additional clues are
- not a tramway
- not on an island [edit: well, I mean it is in mainland Britain]
I can think of a final clue (which would make it rather easy to guess, I think) which I can give this evening if no-one gets it before then.... |
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2020, 10:08:26 » |
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I'm sure it's not the right answer, and someone's probably suggested it already, but: Bristol Port Railway and Pier? (Aka Port and Pier Railway)...
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2020, 10:10:54 » |
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I'm sure it's not the right answer, and someone's probably suggested it already, but: Bristol Port Railway and Pier? (Aka Port and Pier Railway)...
I'm afraid it isn't... |
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2020, 10:16:01 » |
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Not in our area but possibly the longest closed.
Edenham and Littel Bytham railway 1851 1884.
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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2020, 10:26:30 » |
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Fawkham Junction to HS1▸ .
I've only just got to this thread. Going back nearly to the start, BNM mentions Hendford, closing in 1860. If that was the same as Hendfoed Halt, I suspect that 1960 is closer to the real closure date.
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2020, 10:40:20 » |
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They were two different stations. Hendford was Yeovil’s first station, opening with the B&E‡’s line from Taunton in 1853, four years later it was extended to meet the GWR▸ at Pen Mill.
Hendford Halt was opened in 1933 to serve the developing Westlands and closed with the line in 1964. I travelled on the last service into Yeovil that day. It was one of a number of halts the GWR opened around then, others included Chetnole, Thornford, Cattistock and Stratton & Bradford Peverell on the Weymouth line
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2020, 13:56:25 » |
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New Passage Pier to Pilning ... 1863 - 1886
... and Severn Beach to Pilning, 1928-1964 Not sure - Severn Beach to Pilning was opened in 1900, and upgraded to take passenger trains in 1928, so not sure if that counts until 2028. Looking through all the posts, I wonder which (if any) of these long lost lines could make a useful comeback today, no doubt for different purposes to the original in many cases. Ignoring little matters like trackbeds lost under growths of houses and blown up viaducts, I came up with three to put forward for the next round of government funding, in addition to the Lynton and Barnstaple where the team is probably looking to do the job without DfT» , Network Rail, GRIP▸ , etc. My three are all parts of somewhat wider schemes as they take trains along the "gone longer that open" section then onto other elements. Interesting thought ... rather than dilute this thread, let's see what else people come up with as we complete Lympstone Commuter's quest. By the way - note to Lympstone_Commuter - huge Thank You for posting this thread. A fascinating question and lots of responses tell me I'm not alone in enjoying it! |
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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2020, 14:11:21 » |
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Ringwood to Christchurch (open 1862-1935, thus early closure, landowner had right to stop any train at a private station according to Wikipedia, is that it's unusual characteristic?)
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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2020, 14:17:20 » |
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Ringwood to Christchurch (open 1862-1935, thus early closure, landowner had right to stop any train at a private station according to Wikipedia, is that it's unusual characteristic?)
Sorry, no - but a great example! The one I'm thinking of was open for a *remarkably* short amount of time..... |
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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2020, 14:34:21 » |
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it sounds like a temporary terminus opened prior to the main one.
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2020, 14:36:13 » |
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it sounds like a temporary terminus opened prior to the main one.
...it does - but it isn't... It's a genuine line - from one settlement to another, that lasted for less time than, for example, the L&B |
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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2020, 14:42:10 » |
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it sounds like a temporary terminus opened prior to the main one.
...it does - but it isn't... It's a genuine line - from one settlement to another, that lasted for less time than, for example, the L&B Until you posted that I was thinking of Heathrow Junction, open from 19.1.1998 to 23.6.1998 |
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