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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 18:24:10 » |
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Forgive my ignorance, but although I was aware that Dorchester was substantially rebuilt in the 1960s (I think) to facilitate travel from the mainline to Waterloo, I was not aware that there was no direct service between Weymouth and the nearest main South Coast towns and cities (Bournemouth and Southampton)or to Waterloo. That does not seem quite right, as I am reasonably certain I have seen a picture of a Southern Region train behind an unrebuilt Southern light pacific and a Western Region train behind a Grange alongside one another At Weymouth at about this time. Or is this just Western Region services?
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 18:31:57 » |
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Forgive my ignorance, but although I was aware that Dorchester was substantially rebuilt in the 1960s (I think) to facilitate travel from the mainline to Waterloo, I was not aware that there was no direct service between Weymouth and the nearest main South Coast towns and cities (Bournemouth and Southampton)or to Waterloo. That does not seem quite right, as I am reasonably certain I have seen a picture of a Southern Region train behind an unrebuilt Southern light pacific and a Western Region train behind a Grange alongside one another At Weymouth at about this time. Or is this just Western Region services?
Sorry - this is just Western Region - here under "Heart of Wessex". I've have a look at services via Wareham and Southampton tomorrow. |
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 18:33:36 » |
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Dorchester south was rebuilt and the trains to Waterloo leave from there. I can remember the Cromptons reversing back into the Up platform to gain access and then out again towards Southampton. You are looking at Dorchester West.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2020, 18:38:26 » |
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Dorchester South was rebuilt for the electric service to start around 1987/8. The new station up platform was built on the curve. The old station was sold to Eldridge Pope’s brewery but has subsequently been demolished during the Brewery development.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2020, 18:56:26 » |
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The time table shown is the Western region service, there won't be many if any London to Weymouth through trains.
London Waterloo to Weymouth is a Southern region service, and I'm sure there were plenty of trains Waterloo to Weymouth and a few to Weymouth Quay.
As built Dorchester South was a terminal station and when the Southern line from Dorchester to Weymouth opened trains from London arrived in Dorchester South then reversed out before going on to Weymouth, Trains from Weymouth to London passed Dorchester South and then reversed into the platforms before going on to London.
I believe there was a new platform built on the Weymouth bound (Down) line years before the up side platform was built, so for years only up services reversed to call at Dorchester South.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2020, 22:01:42 » |
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As built Dorchester South was a terminal station and when the Southern line from Dorchester to Weymouth opened trains from London arrived in Dorchester South then reversed out before going on to Weymouth, Trains from Weymouth to London passed Dorchester South and then reversed into the platforms before going on to London.
I believe there was a new platform built on the Weymouth bound (Down) line years before the up side platform was built, so for years only up services reversed to call at Dorchester South.
The old maps showed a through island platform on the curve at Dorchester South as well as the terminal platforms. Was this not used? |
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2020, 22:49:08 » |
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As built Dorchester South was a terminal station and when the Southern line from Dorchester to Weymouth opened trains from London arrived in Dorchester South then reversed out before going on to Weymouth, Trains from Weymouth to London passed Dorchester South and then reversed into the platforms before going on to London.
I believe there was a new platform built on the Weymouth bound (Down) line years before the up side platform was built, so for years only up services reversed to call at Dorchester South.
The old maps showed a through island platform on the curve at Dorchester South as well as the terminal platforms. Was this not used? If you look closely, you'll see that the line past one face of that platform doesn't go very far - to the engine shed, or stops short. |
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2020, 13:11:31 » |
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Sorry - this is just Western Region - here under "Heart of Wessex". I'll have a look at services via Wareham and Southampton tomorrow.
Here are services via Dorchester South (Southern) ... the full table if over 20 pages, with a sprinkling of one of two Weymouth trains per page amongst lots of local and shorter workings. Please excuse me not digitising / uploading the whole lot!  If you open this image in a separate window / save it to file, you'll get it at a higher resolution |
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2020, 19:33:09 » |
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Bradshaw does not always tell the full story. For instance the Weymouth Saturday arrival about 115pm shown as being from Westbury was in fact the 0835 from Paddington via Newbury and Devizes. The Western Region timetable shows this as 'TC‡ from Reading to Weymouth' because it was possible to leave Paddington on the 930 and change into this train at Westbury.
There are several instances like this, and particularly so a couple of years earlier when the situation was further confused by slip coaches.
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