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A replica traveling pub might go down well on some of the heritage rail tours across the UK▸ , perhaps especially outside of the peak season, whenever they start again.
To be called "the broadgage tavern" of course. Yes, that has a certain ring to it although it would be unfortunate if the tavern's inclusion resulted in unruly behaviour brought about by overzealous Port based refreshment by the customers. 😧 |
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2020, 04:28:09 » |
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A replica traveling pub might go down well on some of the heritage rail tours across the UK▸ , perhaps especially outside of the peak season, whenever they start again.
To be called "the broadgage tavern" of course. Yes, that has a certain ring to it although it would be unfortunate if the tavern's inclusion resulted in unruly behaviour brought about by overzealous Port based refreshment by the customers. 😧 Most unlikely to be a problem. Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity. Port is also the proper* drink with which to drink the Loyal Toast to the sovereign. Whilst not everyone is a gentleman, most non gentlemen do not know what Port is. Beer is for quaffing by the pint in a public house or tavern, preferably good quality draught beer, though bottled beer is an acceptable alternative. *At informal occasions, the Loyal Toast may be taken in beer, or wine, but for a formal dinner, Port is the proper drink. Those who do not wish to drink Port, should take a little water. It is not considered proper to drink the Loyal Toast in strong spirits, nor in mixed drinks or cocktails containing strong spirits. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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A replica traveling pub might go down well on some of the heritage rail tours across the UK▸ , perhaps especially outside of the peak season, whenever they start again.
To be called "the broadgage tavern" of course. Yes, that has a certain ring to it although it would be unfortunate if the tavern's inclusion resulted in unruly behaviour brought about by overzealous Port based refreshment by the customers. 😧 Most unlikely to be a problem. Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity. Port is also the proper* drink with which to drink the Loyal Toast to the sovereign. Whilst not everyone is a gentleman, most non gentlemen do not know what Port is. Beer is for quaffing by the pint in a public house or tavern, preferably good quality draught beer, though bottled beer is an acceptable alternative. *At informal occasions, the Loyal Toast may be taken in beer, or wine, but for a formal dinner, Port is the proper drink. Those who do not wish to drink Port, should take a little water. It is not considered proper to drink the Loyal Toast in strong spirits, nor in mixed drinks or cocktails containing strong spirits. Well, that's us told!  |
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2020, 09:57:36 » |
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Nice to dream of the return of rail tours - but not with Tavern cars. They really were very claustrophobic, and would suit only those who wanted to get paralytic - quickly (and expensively) - at 60 mph.
Going back to the summer restaurant cars, I twice travelled up on a Summer Saturday. The heavy 8.15 Perranporth - Paddington served only Perranporth, St Agnes, and, I think, picked up at St Austell. But it carried the full restaurant car, although on Saturdays they served only a set three course meal, the main course being a salad, as did the car (or cars) on the 1030 up Limited, serving only Penzance, Gwinear Road and Truro, I think, when I travelled. The latter service had four sittings of lunch, 11.30 and then hourly. A tough shift for the crew.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2020, 19:52:23 » |
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2020, 00:00:07 » |
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Splendid, bring them back. "hated by everyone, except by those who actually used them" Bit like buffets on HSTs▸ . |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2020, 20:07:12 » |
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Most unlikely to be a problem. Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2020, 20:14:42 » |
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Most unlikely to be a problem. Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity.
Still... ...or sparkling, if you really want to be fancy. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2020, 20:42:00 » |
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Still... ...or sparkling, if you really want to be fancy. Any Port in a storm. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2020, 20:44:09 » |
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Port should not be sparkling. If it is found to be sparkling it is probably firstly not in fact real port, and secondly it is probably going bad, or already gone bad.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2020, 07:33:15 » |
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Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity.
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2020, 08:45:54 » |
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Gentlemen know that Port is for savouring in modest volumes with or immediately after the sweet or cheese course of a meal, it is not for quaffing in quantity.
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Now you tell me Can it be drunk accompanied with a Scotch egg? |
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2020, 13:09:53 » |
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Can it be drunk accompanied with a Scotch egg?
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2020, 14:35:33 » |
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Yes. There was always one on the 6pm ex Waterloo. My Dad loved them, but I disliked the lack of windows. Always packed as far as Salisbury, but empty thereafter. Sandwiches were freshly made to order and very tasty - although a poor substitute for 'dinner in the diner'.
I never remember seeing one in the consist of the morning up trains (usually the 6.30 or 7.30 off Exeter) - perhaps they travelled up later in the day, because it would have been a nightmare re marshalling those sets.
On a similar subject, but drifting the thread through at least 900, my memory of the longest regular train through Castle Cary was the Summer Friday evening down empty restaurant cars. These were fully staffed, but I never asked what sleeping arrangements were in place for the staff. Any one know more of that?
Are you certain that the restaurant cars were staffed ? It seems more probable to me that the restaurant staff either lived in the west country, or if resident in/near London that they traveled West on an earlier train to join the pre-positioned and stocked restaurants. Or the train might have contained a sleeper car ? |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2020, 15:03:57 » |
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Are you certain that the restaurant cars were staffed ? It seems more probable to me that the restaurant staff either lived in the west country, or if resident in/near London that they traveled West on an earlier train to join the pre-positioned and stocked restaurants. Or the train might have contained a sleeper car ? Yes. They were definitely staffed - the crews were very visible on board - some even gave a wave to the Box on the way past. I am pretty sure I would remember if there were sleeping cars. The load was always at least 16, so there would have been a lot of staff, besides the individual cars (or sets) were presumably broken out to get to their differing stabling points of origin on the Friday night. |
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