The Grove, Watford

Gordon the Blue Engine

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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2019, 12:06:49 »

Work Study, which included Method Study, Work Measurement and Organisation & Methods, flourished on BR^▸ and in BREL^▸ until the mid 1980’s. It became known as Industrial Engineering for a while, and also became a part of Management Services. It provided a quantitative basis for evaluating the time and resources necessary for particular tasks - “man-hours” was a common unit of measurement, and a stopwatch a common tool.

One exercise I was involved in was carriage cleaning at Derby Etches Park: based on the number of units arriving each night, the time they arrived and left, the type of clean they were booked for etc. it was possible to accurately quantify how many staff you needed.

Don’t know how they do it now.


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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2019, 21:45:50 »

Quote from: Gordon the Blue Engine on December 07, 2019, 17:06:06

Thinking of The Grove reminds me of, one evening after dinner, someone making a pass at one of the waitresses young enough to be his daughter. She smiled and walked away.

The next evening she was serving him and dropped an apple crumble and custard on his lap. “Oh sorry” she said , smiled and walked away.

That’s how girls looked after themselves before the snowflake generation.

If I knew that waitress, if god forbid she was my daughter, I wouldn't find that story very amusing given how it could have (and for many, has) ended.

Perhaps it's just me, but hurrah for the 'snowflake generation' if it means a child of mine has to worry a little less about unwarranted and inappropriate sexual advances especially from creepy old men.


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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2021, 01:06:50 »

Quote from: CyclingSid on December 08, 2019, 14:08:46

Thanks RichrdB
From "Britain's Railways in Wartime". https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/britains-railways-in-wartime
...SR^‡ moved into the Regency house of Deepdene, near Dorking, ...underground caves were adapted into a bunker for the telephone exchange and Traffic Control.

GWR^▸ moved into six country houses west of Reading, with Beenham Grange at Aldermaston as the HQ^▸ . The LMS^▸ took over The Grove near Watford. The LNER^» moved into The Hoo near Hitchin.

The once secret wartime bunkers used by the Southern at Deepdene are now far from secret. Not open to the public but not that secure and certainly no longer secret. Very poor condition these days.
A number of urban explorers have gained access and posted photos and reports on line.
Not certain if posting a link is OK ?


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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU^▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.

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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2021, 01:17:37 »

Posting your link is fine with us, broadgage, provided it is in the public domain - and the Coffee Shop forum can take no responsibility if it turns out to be broken / inappropriate.

Chris from Nailsea.


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William Huskisson MP^▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.

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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2021, 08:37:04 »

The Great Western Railway moved its HQ^▸ during WW2 to Aldermaston, after the war Aldermaston was used for some other Government purpose


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broadgage

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Re: The Grove, Watford

« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2021, 16:51:55 »

Quote from: Chris from Nailsea on January 30, 2021, 01:17:37

Well here is a link.
https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/deepdene-ww2-southern-railway-traffic-control-centre-december-2014.125325/

Links to other reports about the same place may be found at the bottom of the page to which I link.


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