Bristol Underground System proposals - merged posts

[whole diary]

[Bmblbzzz]

“We have continued the work to build a mass transit system that will transform the way we move around the city region,” said Rees.

“Economic and geological assessment work is done. We are about to commit a further £15 million with our neighbours to take this work to the next stage.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/mayor-promises-to-steer-ahead-with-underground-railway/

[Phantom]

“We have continued the work to build a mass transit system that will transform the way we move around the city region,” said Rees.

“Economic and geological assessment work is done. We are about to commit a further £15 million with our neighbours to take this work to the next stage.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/mayor-promises-to-steer-ahead-with-underground-railway/

The guy is delusional

[DaveHarries]

“We have continued the work to build a mass transit system that will transform the way we move around the city region,” said Rees.

“Economic and geological assessment work is done. We are about to commit a further £15 million with our neighbours to take this work to the next stage.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/mayor-promises-to-steer-ahead-with-underground-railway/

The guy is delusional

Indeed. And seeing as my employer is about to move out of town I am likely to have no cause to use it anyway.

Dave

[johnneyw]

And the saga continues:
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-new-underground-rail-network-7772344?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

[Bmblbzzz]

Let's assume this actually gets built. We can even assume the "Over or underground rapid routes" really will be underground rail. But look at the pattern. What's new? One line through St George and out to unspecified points in the north-east of Bristol (maybe Kingswood, maybe Emersons Green?). Everything else pretty much duplicates existing routes. And even the new one doesn't provide a circumferential or non-radial route, everything is still routed through the centre, probably involving a change and out again.

[Red Squirrel]

Always nice to get a straight answer from a politician: https://twitter.com/i/status/1628071652159283200

…I think we can officially declare the Marvin Metro dead.

[TonyK]

Always nice to get a straight answer from a politician: https://twitter.com/i/status/1628071652159283200

…I think we can officially declare the Marvin Metro dead.

More stillborn than dead, maybe. As final confirmation before the knacker's cart arrives, and I haven't read it all yet, I don't think it gets a mention in the recently published Greater Bristol Rail Network Strategic Study

[Red Squirrel]

To be fair, it wouldn’t would it.

Good spot though, TonyK! Did you like the bit about four-tracking from Keynsham to Bath?

[TonyK]

To be fair, it wouldn’t would it.

Good spot though, TonyK! Did you like the bit about four-tracking from Keynsham to Bath?

I did rather, although I am struggling to take it seriously yet. Parson Street to Bedminster looks easier, and will surely ensure an appearance on Great Railway Journeys of teh World.

[Noggin]

To be fair, it wouldn’t would it.

Good spot though, TonyK! Did you like the bit about four-tracking from Keynsham to Bath?

I did rather, although I am struggling to take it seriously yet. Parson Street to Bedminster looks easier, and will surely ensure an appearance on Great Railway Journeys of teh World.

Also the discreet recommendation for full electrification :-)

[chuffed]

Parson Street and Bedminister International may yet receive a second state visit from Sir Michael Portaloo.....

[TonyK]

So that it doesn't get buried in the underground, I have started a new thread for the Greater Bristol Rail Network Strategic Study, at:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=27232

[Bmblbzzz]

Keeping the underground plans above ground; the battle of the mayors continues as Metro Marvin says No-tube Norris lacks ambition:

“The lack of ambition of both Bristol city opposition councillors and the combined authority is staggering,” Rees said.

“I remain committed to the mass transit system including the use of underground in central areas.”

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/metro-mayor-lack-ambition-bristol-underground-staggering/

...while "totally rejecting" a newly revealed estimate of £18 billion for the cost of an underground system.

The study, by multinational consultancy giants WSP, concludes that an overground mass transit network would cost between £1.5bn and £1.8bn, but an underground would set taxpayers back ten times that amount – £15.5bn to £18.3bn.

A spokesperson for Rees said: “We totally reject the report and its content.

“It was commissioned by the West of England Combined Authority and their brief for WPS was initially challenged by Bristol City Council.

“The costs are far removed from previous estimates and are a response to the flawed approach that some in WECA^» (West of England Combined Authority - about) have taken to this point.

“Buses alone are not the answer to Bristol’s decades of transport failure, which we set WECA up to solve not ignore.

“Bristolians need and deserve a mass transit system, so the Mayor of Bristol will continue to strongly argue for the next tranche of delivery.

“Failure of leadership to deliver a mass transit system fails our city and our region.”

Rees, who will be making the case for another £15m to be spent developing mass transit at the next WECA committee in March.

Norris has declined to comment.

https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/bristol-underground-would-cost-18bn-secret-report-reveals/

[johnneyw]

Just a it seemed to me that WECA^» (West of England Combined Authority - about) or more specifically our Metro Mayor had put the whole issue of underground mass transit out of the question, along comes this different take on matters from New Civil Engineer:

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/tunnelling-work-for-planned-bristol-underground-would-be-relatively-easy-22-03-2023/?tkn=1

So, is it back on with WECA or isn't it?  I'm confused (as regulars to the Coffee Shop will likely already know).

[infoman]

Has anyone actually managed to connect to the site

Future4West

Because I have not.