Storing petrol

[whole diary]

[Timmer]

There's always the bottles of Port. 

I guess drinking it would bring temporary comfort to your absolutely hopeless situation. You won’t be able to pop down to Morrisons to stock up once it runs out.

[1st fan]

If the country/world ever develops into a situation where an underground bunker is the best option, then I will be very happy to exit stage left rather than clamber down the steps into it and live through the tortured life that would follow.

Once met someone who’s father had before retiring had a large corner shop and she said their garage always had stock for the shop. It was always just tinned, canned and any other goods that had a long shelf life and didn’t require water to cook. Also all the canned drinks and bottled water were stored in the garage too before going to the shop.

A while after the end of the cold war her father admitted that he had a reason for doing this. It wasn’t as he’d told them that there wasn’t enough space for the stock at the shop. It was because in the event of the cold war turning hot, they’d have plenty to eat and drink. She actually admitted she hoped to die in a fireball rather than live through it, but had never told him that.

[broadgage]

The bunker in question is not mine, but I am promised a space in it in return for help in designing and stocking.
It is above ground but sheltered by a very substantial earth mound, this looks like a small hill but is manmade.

If too close to a nuclear explosion survival is not possible, but a bunker increases the chances of survival in the event of a more distant explosion, or drifting fallout.

As a rough guide,
 being inside an average house reduces the dose to one tenth of that received in the open.
A deep basement but without any specific protective measures reduces the dose to about one hundredth of that received in the open.
A  basic purpose built shelter reduces the dose to about one thousandth of that received in the open.

[Chris from Nailsea]

It is above ground but sheltered by a very substantial earth mound, this looks like a small hill but is manmade.

Are you possibly a hobbit, broadgage? 

[ChrisB]

Or a Teletubby?

[Marlburian]

Once met someone who’s father had before retiring had a large corner shop and she said their garage always had stock for the shop. It was always just tinned, canned and any other goods that had a long shelf life and didn’t require water to cook. Also all the canned drinks and bottled water were stored in the garage too before going to the shop.

A while after the end of the cold war her father admitted that he had a reason for doing this. It wasn’t as he’d told them that there wasn’t enough space for the stock at the shop. It was because in the event of the cold war turning hot, they’d have plenty to eat and drink. She actually admitted she hoped to die in a fireball rather than live through it, but had never told him that.

My Government job meant that it was possible that I might have had a place in the bunker opposite Basingstoke Station. On a course at the Home Defence College at Easingwold, I had the temerity to suggest that some officials might not turn up,preferring to be with their families; this prompted the tutor to have a dig at me later when he suggested that I might be one such. In the event of escalating tension, selected officials would report to a hotel in Newbury (close to the strategic targets of Aldermaston, Greenham Common and the USAF^▸ (United States Air Force) bomb depot at Welford) and then be bussed to Basingstoke.

There were fears that some might prefer to see out Armageddon with their families so, bizarrely, the Government  said that some relatives might be allowed in to the bunker ("Bouches inutiles"  - "Useless Mouths") and one guy nominated his grandmother.

Happily the world became a safer place    and the bunker was de-commissioned ...

[IndustryInsider]

The bunker in question is not mine, but I am promised a space in it in return for help in designing and stocking.
It is above ground but sheltered by a very substantial earth mound, this looks like a small hill but is manmade.

If too close to a nuclear explosion survival is not possible, but a bunker increases the chances of survival in the event of a more distant explosion, or drifting fallout.

As a rough guide,
 being inside an average house reduces the dose to one tenth of that received in the open.
A deep basement but without any specific protective measures reduces the dose to about one hundredth of that received in the open.
A  basic purpose built shelter reduces the dose to about one thousandth of that received in the open.

That’s ok then!

[Chris from Nailsea]

In the days when I drove a petrol car, I would always fill up completely, just to extend the time before I had to do it again. An aircraft has other considerations that make it much more important.

Thanks, Tony!  rofl 

[broadgage]

If CONSIDERING ONLY fuel economy, then cars should be filled with only enough fuel to complete the planned journey, plus a margin for delays or diversions.
In practice I would recommend keeping vehicle tanks nearly full so as to have a margin in case of supply interruptions, carrying around the extra weight will increase fuel used, but only slightly.

Remember that the law limits domestic petrol storage to 30 litres, EXCLUDING fuel in vehicle tanks.
hundreds of litres in a number of vehicles is fine, but 31 litres in cans is not lawful.

[Chris from Nailsea]

Fair enough.  The only petrol I store in my garage is in a can for use in my lawn mower.  It's a 5 litre capacity can, but I never have more than one litre in it - otherwise, it goes stale before I will use it.   

[IndustryInsider]

Fair enough.  The only petrol I store in my garage is in a can for use in my lawn mower.  It's a 5 litre capacity can, but I never have more than one litre in it - otherwise, it goes stale before I will use it.   

I was recommended to use Aspen Alkylate Petrol in my mower as it doesn’t go stale anywhere near as quickly and is kinder on the wear and tear of the engine and less polluting.

It is pricier though.

https://aspenfuel.co.uk/

[broadgage]

Those who have NOT already prudently stocked petrol, might need to start panic buying.

Considerable disruption to European distribution of oil and oil products is reported due to a large hacking attack on oil infrastructure.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60250956

Two years later, it is reported that UK^▸ (United Kingdom) infrastructure is at risk of russian, or russian inspired hacking attacks, this being in retaliation for the UK supporting Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqxezer7nqo report here.

The main concern appears to be cyber attacks affecting electricity supply, but oil products distribution would also seem to be a risk.

[Sixty3Closure]

Once met someone who’s father had before retiring had a large corner shop and she said their garage always had stock for the shop. It was always just tinned, canned and any other goods that had a long shelf life and didn’t require water to cook. Also all the canned drinks and bottled water were stored in the garage too before going to the shop.

A while after the end of the cold war her father admitted that he had a reason for doing this. It wasn’t as he’d told them that there wasn’t enough space for the stock at the shop. It was because in the event of the cold war turning hot, they’d have plenty to eat and drink. She actually admitted she hoped to die in a fireball rather than live through it, but had never told him that.

My Government job meant that it was possible that I might have had a place in the bunker opposite Basingstoke Station. On a course at the Home Defence College at Easingwold, I had the temerity to suggest that some officials might not turn up,preferring to be with their families; this prompted the tutor to have a dig at me later when he suggested that I might be one such. In the event of escalating tension, selected officials would report to a hotel in Newbury (close to the strategic targets of Aldermaston, Greenham Common and the USAF^▸ (United States Air Force) bomb depot at Welford) and then be bussed to Basingstoke.

There were fears that some might prefer to see out Armageddon with their families so, bizarrely, the Government  said that some relatives might be allowed in to the bunker ("Bouches inutiles"  - "Useless Mouths") and one guy nominated his grandmother.

Happily the world became a safer place    and the bunker was de-commissioned ...

My job meant working on a bunker and looking at the technology to keep it and the services it supported running in the event of nuclear war or social collapse but apparently I didn't get a place. I also had to sign various bits of paper before I was allowed in despite pointing out there was a Wikipedia page that was far more detailed than the handover I'd received.

[Sixty3Closure]

Fair enough.  The only petrol I store in my garage is in a can for use in my lawn mower.  It's a 5 litre capacity can, but I never have more than one litre in it - otherwise, it goes stale before I will use it.   

I was recommended to use Aspen Alkylate Petrol in my mower as it doesn’t go stale anywhere near as quickly and is kinder on the wear and tear of the engine and less polluting.

It is pricier though.

https://aspenfuel.co.uk/

Another vote for Aspen but as II says it is more expensive. I'm looking at getting a generator as my water supply (from a borehole) needs electricity to power the pumps but the logistics around storing 'fresh' petrol keeps putting me off and the cost of more Aspen is also off putting.

[broadgage]

Fair enough.  The only petrol I store in my garage is in a can for use in my lawn mower.  It's a 5 litre capacity can, but I never have more than one litre in it - otherwise, it goes stale before I will use it.   

I was recommended to use Aspen Alkylate Petrol in my mower as it doesn’t go stale anywhere near as quickly and is kinder on the wear and tear of the engine and less polluting.

It is pricier though.

https://aspenfuel.co.uk/

Another vote for Aspen but as II says it is more expensive. I'm looking at getting a generator as my water supply (from a borehole) needs electricity to power the pumps but the logistics around storing 'fresh' petrol keeps putting me off and the cost of more Aspen is also off putting.

I would get a diesel generator, as almost unlimited volumes of diesel fuel may be stored. Diesel keeps better and is much safer than petrol.