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Been travelling recently on these infernal piles of junk, and in the last few weeks they have been always been full and standing , with toilets locked out of use early in the day and nothing in the shop, a fine state of affairs if you are going to Newcastle from Taunton stood up
Is it me or has the service started to go downhill since Mr Branson departed??
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2008, 22:01:11 » |
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Travelled for 2 1/2 hours on one today. A 4-car voyager in the new Cross Country livery between Camborne and Newton Abbot. It was really bad. Usually 5 cars but today was 4, standard class was full and standing by Truro and never emptied. Then the Air Conditioning in Coach C turned itself to full heat due to extreme passenger loads according to the TM‡. And to top it all off the extra 4 cars due on at Plymouth got shifted to a different diagram as another unit failed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 01:14:22 » |
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Then the Air Conditioning in Coach C turned itself to full heat due to extreme passenger loads according to the TM‡. You have my sympathy for your bad travel experiences on Voyagers, dog box and qprrule: I tend to avoid the 0846 Nailsea to BTM▸ for just those reasons! However, one thing does puzzle me: why does any train 'think' that overcrowded passengers need to be baked alive? Whenever I am on a crowded train, the first thing people complain about is how stuffy it gets - so why does the train's air conditioning system then insist on pushing (smelly) hot air around???  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 07:28:57 » |
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Been travelling recently on these infernal piles of junk, and in the last few weeks they have been always been full and standing , with toilets locked out of use early in the day and nothing in the shop, a fine state of affairs if you are going to Newcastle from Taunton stood up
Is it me or has the service started to go downhill since Mr Branson departed??
Sounds like Arriva are struggling a bit with their fleet of Voyagers from what you describe dog box. The sooner they get their fleet of HSTs▸ running on cross country the better, but this is some way off. Speaking of Voyagers, it was Mr Branson and company that scrapped HSTs on Cross Country replacing them with the smelley tin cans that run the routes today. Thats not an excuse for Arriva not to maintain them of course. |
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 08:12:55 » |
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Is it me or has the service started to go downhill since Mr Branson departed??
They always were crowded before, haven't noticed any major differences between Virgin and Arriva save the lack of at seat entertainment (apparently the kit in the trains belongs to Virgin and cannot be used.) On another note punctuality of most voyagers I've been on lately has been excellent (however that may be slack in the timetable?) |
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 09:01:38 » |
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Been travelling recently on these infernal piles of junk, and in the last few weeks they have been always been full and standing , with toilets locked out of use early in the day and nothing in the shop, a fine state of affairs if you are going to Newcastle from Taunton stood up
Is it me or has the service started to go downhill since Mr Branson departed??
Speaking of Voyagers, it was Mr Branson and company that scrapped HSTs▸ on Cross Country replacing them with the smelley tin cans that run the routes today. Thats not an excuse for Arriva not to maintain them of course. I have heard that Virgin wanted Loco-Hauled stock not DEMU▸ 's for Cross Country. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 09:54:17 » |
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Then the Air Conditioning in Coach C turned itself to full heat due to extreme passenger loads according to the TM‡. You have my sympathy for your bad travel experiences on Voyagers, dog box and qprrule: I tend to avoid the 0846 Nailsea to BTM▸ for just those reasons! However, one thing does puzzle me: why does any train 'think' that overcrowded passengers need to be baked alive? Whenever I am on a crowded train, the first thing people complain about is how stuffy it gets - so why does the train's air conditioning system then insist on pushing (smelly) hot air around??? ...SMELLY yes on a Voyager its that nasty public toilet aroma thats circulated, seems as if Aircon systems on trains do as they please somewhat.. HSTs▸ do have some basic system control. try standing up in the tip up seat area on a wedged 143 in the summer with all the windows open its quite pleasant really |
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2008, 17:18:04 » |
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When are Cross Country getting the HSTs▸ ? Hopefully by the summer!
Are they refurbing them?
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2008, 21:03:19 » |
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Been travelling recently on these infernal piles of junk, and in the last few weeks they have been always been full and standing , with toilets locked out of use early in the day and nothing in the shop, a fine state of affairs if you are going to Newcastle from Taunton stood up
Is it me or has the service started to go downhill since Mr Branson departed??
Speaking of Voyagers, it was Mr Branson and company that scrapped HSTs▸ on Cross Country replacing them with the smelley tin cans that run the routes today. Thats not an excuse for Arriva not to maintain them of course. I have heard that Virgin wanted Loco-Hauled stock not DEMU▸ 's for Cross Country. That indeed was the Bombadier bid that won the bid for the stock. But between winning it and building them it became DEMU. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2008, 21:36:56 » |
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When are Cross Country getting the HSTs▸ ? Hopefully by the summer!
Are they refurbing them?
The first few will be in operation for Summer Saturday services. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2008, 22:01:46 » |
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When are Cross Country getting the HSTs▸ ? Hopefully by the summer!
Are they refurbing them?
The first few will be in operation for Summer Saturday services. Supposedly ready by MAY!!!!  |
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John R
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 08:26:35 » |
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Or will these be the usual "hire-ins"?
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2008, 14:12:20 » |
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There shouldn't be any hire-ins for the May additionals, there will be for the main Summer additionals - at least, that's what I'm told.
(posting on board a unrefurbished Mk3 HST▸ on NXEC▸ to Newcastle)
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Btline
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 13:50:06 » |
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I doubt there will be any HSTs▸ left for "summer only" holiday services!
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 15:31:25 » |
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I doubt there will be any HSTs▸ left for "summer only" holiday services!
Nor any MkII's between 67's either the way things are going. |
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