Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

John R

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Re: Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2008, 21:16:32 »

Alstom are building them. It's the complex delivery process of integration into the existing fleet which is out to tender.


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eightf48544

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Re: Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2008, 10:27:32 »

Roger Ford has a flow diagram of the process in his column in May's Modern Railways. As far as I can see there are 11 different groups/organisations taking part in this project. That's nine too many.

Should be railway and builder.

It's another illustration of the stupidity of fragmenting the railways.

When you look at most of the posts on this board they would all be easier to solve in a non fragmented railway.

At least with BR^▸ when you asked them for more trains or extra stops etc. They could either say yes or no, subject of course to the Treasury's say so. But at least it was vaguely honest/transparent process.

Nowadays the Treasury is still pulling the strings but is now hiding behind such a complicated structure that it can say well it's up to DafT or the ORR^» or Networkrail or the TOCS or the ROSCOS just don't ask us for money. When the treasury does cough up then you get the absurb situation as outlined in this post.

I wonder how many millions of the costs are actually for building the trains and not bought about by too many organisations havng their fingers in the pie?


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grahame

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Re: Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2008, 10:32:26 »

Quote from: eightf48544 on May 07, 2008, 10:27:32

I wonder how many millions of the costs are actually for building the trains and not bought about by too many organisations havng their fingers in the pie?

Slightly off topic, but an insight - I saw a quote that the cost of operating one particular service (in a part of England NOT served by the FGW^▸ franchise) had risen by between 3 and 4 times.


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Lee

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Re: Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2008, 15:46:36 »

Pendolino Train Lengthening and Additional Vehicles Project Invitation to Tender for Service Provider (link below.)
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/pendolinolengthening/tender/


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Lee

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Re: Pendolino Deadlock Broken?

« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2008, 23:23:18 »

DfT^» Press Release on the conclusion of commercial negotiations between the Department for Transport, Angel Trains and Alstom (link below.)
http://nds.coi.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=379234&NewsAreaID=2&NavigatedFromDepartment=False

Virgin Rail Projects Limited will support the Department throughout the delivery, testing and commissioning of the new Pendolino rolling stock.


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