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« Reply #165 on: April 27, 2012, 07:05:19 » |
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I'm not supporting the passenger but...... if the guard had done a ticket check leaving barnstaple.........
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« Reply #166 on: April 27, 2012, 09:09:14 » |
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I'm not supporting the passenger but...... if the guard had done a ticket check leaving barnstaple.........
now your just assuming.... |
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Andrew1939 from West Oxon
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« Reply #167 on: April 27, 2012, 09:28:11 » |
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One of the complaints about Oxford operations is that terminating trains take too long to clear the platform and disappear into the sidings. The reason told to me is that staff have to patrol the train from end to end to ensure that every traveller has left the train. I would have thought that the same rule should have applied at Barnstable before the train reversed to go back to Exeter. Something doesn't sound quite right.
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« Reply #168 on: April 27, 2012, 09:53:15 » |
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It is not the same thing though. At Oxford they are going to a non-public area - eg the sidings. In this case the train was running in service to Exeter St Davids.
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« Reply #169 on: April 27, 2012, 11:02:48 » |
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yes he was an idiot for falling asleep, but why on earth did the guard not check?
Just seems totally stupid. Especially when you consider that the train would have been 4 carriages at most, likely less (so would only take a couple of minutes - if that).
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gaf71
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« Reply #170 on: April 27, 2012, 11:06:13 » |
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In theory the guard should not have let this man off at Eggesford as it is not an advertised stop on this service. The train only stops there for token exchange. My personal opinion on this is that if you've had a long day and feel you may fall asleep, set an alarm on your phone for 5 minutes before arrival time, or perhaps ask the guard to check you get off on arrival, not just assume it's everyones' responsibility but your own.
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JayMac
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« Reply #171 on: April 27, 2012, 12:08:51 » |
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I've fallen asleep on a couple of occasions and been over-carried. Didn't blame anyone but myself.
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« Reply #172 on: April 27, 2012, 13:40:56 » |
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chances are the guard didn't do a ticket check from Barny because he/she didn't see anyone get on the train. This service which runs fridays only used to run ECS▸ from Barny back to Exeter but now runs as a service non stop Barny-Exeter.
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« Reply #173 on: April 27, 2012, 16:37:38 » |
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OK maybe it was slightly lax that no-one noticed the guy asleep on the train before departing Barnstaple, but honestly whatever happened to personal responsibility? When I do something idiotic my first instinct isn't to blame someone else then go running to the gutter press with some kind of sob story. If you think you might fall asleep on a train and miss your stop, you do something about it! Would be still be blaming FGW▸ had the circumstances been slightly different and he'd been overcarried past somewhere that wasn't a terminus?
Frankly it sounds like he only has himself to blame for the 20-mile walk home as well: surely getting off at some remote station, 20 miles from home in the dead of night with no onward transport is cretinous when he could have travelled back to Exeter and arranged some sort of accommodation or transport home from there instead?
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« Reply #175 on: April 27, 2012, 17:30:28 » |
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Read the article and comments above relex: it's not ECS▸ . And if it was the guard would have been obliged to do a thorough check to make sure there was no-one left on-board.
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« Reply #176 on: April 27, 2012, 22:48:46 » |
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I think I would have slept in whatever shelter there was, safe in the knowledge that if anyone cared, they would have told the police. They in turn would have been informed of the note saying "Help, I missed my train" attached to whatever I could drag across the road.
Much more likely, I would have gone home the first train next morning, or much, much more likely would have not fallen asleep on the way, even though I have done it before.
Whatever, it's my fault, and I would not have told the papers.
I've done a lot of things I wasn't proud of, but never told the papers about them, in case I looked like a pillock who was trying to blame someone else for his own shortcomings. That doesn't mean I think that is what happened here, although I will have to wait for the full public inquiry to be certain.
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vacmanfan
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« Reply #177 on: April 29, 2012, 12:52:41 » |
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I fell asleep and my phone alarm didn't go off so I was late for work.. do I now sue my phone manufacturer?
He fell asleep and missed his stop. Big deal. Take responsibility for your actions..
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The SprinterMeister
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« Reply #178 on: April 29, 2012, 20:18:26 » |
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I fell asleep and my phone alarm didn't go off so I was late for work.. do I now sue my phone manufacturer?
He fell asleep and missed his stop. Big deal. Take responsibility for your actions..
Quite. I can stand 25 minutes waiting for the town bus on a 10 minute interval service. Can I sue Stodgecoach if I get wet waiting at the bus stop? No. If you overdoss on a passenger train and end up where you shouldn't thats tough luck. |
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« Reply #179 on: May 05, 2012, 01:18:05 » |
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chances are the guard didn't do a ticket check from Barny because he/she didn't see anyone get on the train.
Well he clearly didn't look very well!! |
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