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« on: February 05, 2018, 21:55:58 »
Hi all

Out of interest does anyone have any official dates for Class 802 introductions, GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) seem to have been saying all last year Summer 2018, does that mean May, June, July, August?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2018, 22:25:08 »
Quote from: devonexpress on February 05, 2018, 21:55:58
Hi all

Out of interest does anyone have any official dates for Class 802 introductions, GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) seem to have been saying all last year Summer 2018, does that mean May, June, July, August?

Given what's happened with the other fleet introductions, perhaps vagueness is the better part of hubris.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2018, 22:32:03 »
I have heard the 17th September quoted for some Swansea services.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 22:46:49 »
I didn’t think the 802s we’re heading to Swansea?  WoE and North Cotswold Line/Oxford’s I thought?
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 10:36:56 »
Indeed....how many delivered so far? I think those dates are likely pie-in-the-sky
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 11:21:20 »
Quote from: bobm on February 05, 2018, 22:32:03
I have heard the 17th September quoted for some Swansea services.

Class 800 for those services my friend.  The 802 are for Devon/Cornwall and Cotswold services. I believed they where being introduced before or at the start of summer but I could be wrong? Its just there is no summer service to Newquay this year!
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 12:47:33 »
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Its just there is no summer service to Newquay this year!

You sure?

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C40159/2018-07-04
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 14:02:42 »
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Its just there is no summer service to Newquay this year!

You sure?

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C40159/2018-07-04

Its what GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) put down in its new franchise agreement, they also have said that to people on twitter. I could be wrong?
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 17:00:07 »
IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) running to Plymouth & Penzance starts on 16th July provided all the outstanding route clearance issues are resolved.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2018, 15:53:31 »
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Its just there is no summer service to Newquay this year!

You sure?

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C40159/2018-07-04

Seen some draft timetables and the 09:03 is shown as continuing to terminate at Plymouth and forming the 12:55 back to London Paddington.  It is possible it is still subject to change.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2018, 16:06:57 »
This is the commitment in the GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about) Service Level Commitment for London - Penzance (part of the Franchise Agreement)

"3.10 Newquay

On Summer Saturdays one service from London Paddington and one service to London Paddington shall call. On Mondays to Fridays during the period from the first weekend in July to the last weekend in August, one service shall call in each direction."

This will run.  I'd be confident of that.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2018, 16:13:19 »
Indeed - you are correct, of course, there is a separate timetable draft for May and one for July for the West of England.   It is on the July one.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2018, 14:30:15 »
Quote from: RichardB on February 16, 2018, 16:06:57
This is the commitment in the GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about) Service Level Commitment for London - Penzance (part of the Franchise Agreement)

"3.10 Newquay

On Summer Saturdays one service from London Paddington and one service to London Paddington shall call. On Mondays to Fridays during the period from the first weekend in July to the last weekend in August, one service shall call in each direction."

This will run.  I'd be confident of that.

I've been trying to find the document where it stated it. But in the GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) document it stated that because the IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))'s have ganging issues on the Newquay Branch. Paddington to Newquay services would be replaced by a Newquay shuttle to Par, and then passing onto a IET to continue to Paddington. Ill look harder to find it, but it know its been said for about two years. It might still go ahead this year because there will still be HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s but next year is doubtful.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2018, 21:48:57 »
If the guaging is wrong, the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) will either have to pay NR» (Network Rail - home page) to put right or else smend that franchise dicumet to remove the direct train. It'll get to be one or the other
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 21:54:25 »
Quote from: ChrisB on February 17, 2018, 21:48:57
If the guaging is wrong, the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) will either have to pay NR» (Network Rail - home page) to put right or else smend that franchise dicumet to remove the direct train. It'll get to be one or the other

After all DfT specified and procured the train.
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