Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 18:35 10 Jan 2025
 
* Three teens arrested over boy's bus station death
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 14/01/25 - Rail Sale starts
24/01/25 - Westbury Station reopens
24/01/25 - LTP4 Wilts / Consultation end
24/01/25 - Bristol Rail Campaign AGM 2025

On this day
10th Jan (2017)
Defibrillators discussion pack published by Network Rail (link)

Train RunningCancelled
16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington
16:36 London Paddington to Plymouth
16:59 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
17:18 London Paddington to Swansea
17:50 Cardiff Central to London Paddington
Additional 18:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Gloucester
19:04 Great Malvern to London Paddington
19:04 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
19:36 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill
23:03 Salisbury to Portsmouth & Southsea
23:14 London Paddington to Oxford
Short Run
14:03 London Paddington to Penzance
16:30 London Paddington to Taunton
17:03 London Paddington to Penzance
17:28 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
17:52 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
17:59 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
17:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
18:04 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
18:29 Gatwick Airport to Reading
18:38 Barnstaple to Exmouth
18:38 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
19:04 Paignton to London Paddington
19:35 Exeter St Davids to London Paddington
22:50 Salisbury to Portsmouth Harbour
Delayed
15:03 London Paddington to Penzance
17:33 Barnstaple to Exeter Central
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 10, 2025, 18:49:05 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[149] Westminster Hall debate : Railway services to South West
[97] Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsew...
[91] Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion
[81] Mick Lynch announces retirement as head of RMT
[38] Birthday trip, Melksham to Penzance - 28th January 2025
[20] A Beginner's Guide to the Great Western "Coffee Shop" Passenge...
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4
  Print  
Author Topic: Learning where GWR's priorities lie ...  (Read 18745 times)
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8456



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2017, 12:05:46 »

I’m expecting a very bruising Christmas period.  Several things are likely to combine:

 Jam tomorrow is quite rightly not currently cutting it with many though!



Mainly because we've been promised "Jam tomorrow" and numerous variations of "Manana Manana" by First/GWR (Great Western Railway)/the railways  for years, and (quite rightly) they are no longer trusted as they fail to deliver.
Logged
Adelante_CCT
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1314



View Profile
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2017, 13:51:07 »

For how many more years will we be told "manana, manana"?

although I do wonder when "Manana, manana" etc etc is going to end

the constant "manana manana"

the same as always - "Manana Manana"  Roll Eyes

What frustrates a lot of people is the "manana, manana".

.............manana, manana, manana............. Roll Eyes

"Manana Manana"

..............one more "Manana Manana" type response and I will probably find him and insert a GWR (Great Western Railway) whistle somewhere painful.........

.....I heard nothing other than the usual "Manana" platitudes from the usual sources

- the GWR mantra is always "Manana Manana" -

" and numerous variations of "Manana Manana" by First/GWR/the railways/TG  for years,
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8456



View Profile
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2017, 14:58:50 »

Blimey you've got some time on your hands! 😂   

(Quite flattered that you took so much trouble just to help me prove the point though!)
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10365


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2017, 15:36:11 »

Mainly because we've been promised "Jam tomorrow" and numerous variations of "Manana Manana" by First/GWR (Great Western Railway)/the railways  for years, and (quite rightly) they are no longer trusted as they fail to deliver.

At least we have seen real progress this year though.  The 387s have been introduced and are proving very reliable, the IET (Intercity Express Train)’s have (opening day PR (Public Relations) disaster aside) settled in pretty nicely with largely favourable reviews.  Had seats been a bit softer on both trains then there would have been widespread praise!

Also, new electrification equipment has so far proven to be very reliable, and we have started the Turbo cascade to the west, though with initial punctuality problems on the Severn Beach route.

At the start of next year 387s will take over nearly all suburban trains into Paddington throughout the day, and Crossrail trains will soon start testing and then be in use between Heathrow and Paddington from May.  IET’s will have taken over the majority of HST (High Speed Train) work by the end of the year, and the west should see short-formed HSTs and Turbos arrive in numbers significant enough to bolster capacity there.

I’m optimistic that Sunday’s will be brought into the working week for drivers, which should make weekend planning much easier, and several training courses of drivers will complete to increase numbers of staff.

Still a lot of hurdles to overcome though.  Lots of training, lots of ‘new’ things to bed in, and lots to be done to get the public back on side.

Oh, and I thought it was “Manyana manyana”?
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 13033


View Profile Email
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2017, 15:58:31 »

The aforementioned likely driver shortages on 24th & 31st will combine with the strikes on XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) causing severe overcrowding possible on the Cheltenham /Devon / Cornwall axis
Logged
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 19245



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2017, 16:41:33 »

Still a lot of hurdles to overcome though. 

I predict one of those hurdles will be the RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers). GWR (Great Western Railway) must surely be on their list to manufacture a strike. They are working their way through the TOCs (Train Operating Company).
Logged

"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10365


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2017, 17:02:33 »

Well, so far the unions have struck deals with GWR (Great Western Railway) to avoid it.  That could be described as good negotiating by GWR, or just delaying tactics hoping that the situation currently affecting SWR» (South Western Railway - about), Southern, Northern and Merseyrail will be resolved one way or the other before the new franchise is let.  Surely it has to be?  I suspect any new prospective franchisee holder will be watching that position closely, and the outcome will determine the path they follow in the new franchise.
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6555


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2017, 18:00:32 »

The aforementioned likely driver shortages on 24th & 31st will combine with the strikes on XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) causing severe overcrowding possible on the Cheltenham /Devon / Cornwall axis
Best get your travel by rail complete by the 23rd then. Though for some this may not be possible so will just have to hope their train actually runs on the 24th. Anyone would think the state runs our railway network not private companies.
Logged
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6555


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2017, 18:15:47 »

Not everyone was pleased with the service provided by GWR (Great Western Railway) yesterday:
http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/anger-hundreds-queue-bath-overcrowded-835543

Could have just cut and paste last year’s article. Again why do people insist on travelling to the market on a weekend? If you are that keen on visiting sheds full of expensive items, take a day off during the week when there is less people around. Much more enjoyable experience.
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8456



View Profile
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2017, 18:57:50 »

Not everyone was pleased with the service provided by GWR (Great Western Railway) yesterday:
http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/anger-hundreds-queue-bath-overcrowded-835543

Could have just cut and paste last year’s article. Again why do people insist on travelling to the market on a weekend? If you are that keen on visiting sheds full of expensive items, take a day off during the week when there is less people around. Much more enjoyable experience.

Not everyone necessarily has the option to take time off in the way you suggest, that's an incredibly blasé attitude.....we all know that the railways are totally unable to cope with well publicised events causing increased demand, whether it's major sporting events, Maundy Thursday etc etc, that's what needs to be addressed, not attempting a fundamental shift in customer behaviour.

The best organisations adapt their model around the needs of their customers, the worst  (generally but not exclusively  public/quasi public sector monopolies) expect it to work the other way around.
Logged
Richard Fairhurst
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1264


View Profile Email
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2017, 19:25:02 »

Blimey you've got some time on your hands! 😂 

Either that or Adelante_CCT knows how to Google!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Afirstgreatwestern.info+"manana+manana"

(The 'site:' modifier on Google is one of their most useful features - strongly recommend it.)
Logged
PhilWakely
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2140



View Profile
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2017, 19:53:51 »

Not everyone was pleased with the service provided by GWR (Great Western Railway) yesterday:
http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/news/bath-news/anger-hundreds-queue-bath-overcrowded-835543
.....

I do like this response from the GWR Twitter team....
Quote
One response advised that passengers who have to stand for their journey despite having a reserved seat can claim compensation.
It doesn't say that passengers will actually get compensation - just 'can claim compensation'. 
Logged
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 8456



View Profile
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2017, 20:06:17 »

Blimey you've got some time on your hands! 😂 

Either that or Adelante_CCT knows how to Google!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Afirstgreatwestern.info+"manana+manana"

(The 'site:' modifier on Google is one of their most useful features - strongly recommend it.)

Bit busy now but I'll check it out.......tomorrow perhaps? 😉
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43080



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2017, 20:08:52 »

Blimey you've got some time on your hands! 😂 

Either that or Adelante_CCT knows how to Google!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Afirstgreatwestern.info+"manana+manana"

(The 'site:' modifier on Google is one of their most useful features - strongly recommend it.)

Bit busy now but I'll check it out.......tomorrow perhaps? 😉

or even http://www.wellho.net/demo/csp.php?search=manana&submit=Search&advanced=0 will find the threads - that's a link from the quick search box at the top of our pages (rather than the broken advanced search)
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
plymothian
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 848


View Profile
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2017, 20:09:48 »

So on one hand we have passengers complaining that GWR (Great Western Railway) are pulling services to add 24 additional trains to Bath, and on the other, passengers complaining that 24 additional trains are not enough.

So perhaps GWR should just pull all trains from everywhere else to run Bristol - Bath and that will shut up the market goers and Counsellors.
Logged

Please be aware that only the first 4 words of this post will be platformed on this message board.
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page