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« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2017, 14:01:21 » |
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It was never used after they returned to FGW▸ in 2012, though remained in situ.
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« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2017, 15:55:30 » |
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Hope no one is expecting to find a buffet or hot food on those services.  Just like the Class 180 it replaces then.  It's been a long while since I was on a 180 are you saying that they removed the express café? Trolley service only on Cotswold Line services operated by Class 180s. |
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« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2017, 16:48:17 » |
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The first run down to Hereford seems to have gone well. The only late running was on the journey to Didcot. Lost 8 mins on the GWML▸ . From there it kept to time, never more than the 8 minutes already lost at each station call. |
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« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2018, 17:08:37 » |
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On RTT» are IETs▸ booked as IETs or generic 125HST?
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« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2018, 17:24:21 » |
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On RTT» are IETs▸ booked as IETs or generic 125HST?
I think that stock allocation has to be made as as input to the timetabling process, since it determines the timings. That means it can't be changed as and when new IETs arrive, so a common type has to be used. As the IETs are a lot quicker on electric, that common stock may as well be the existing HST▸ . As to the relative timings on diesel, the answer is either "not enough difference to worry about" or else "watch this space". |
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« Reply #80 on: January 01, 2018, 18:02:02 » |
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Overall on the North Cotswold Line I expect they’ll be a little slower than HSTs▸ between stations, but have much shorter dwell times at the unstaffed stations which cost so much time. So I expect they will outperform both HSTs and Turbos, though only marginally in the case of the latter. 180s will remain the best performers the line has had - and probably will ever have unless electrified.
What effect 9/10-car operation has may mean revisiting those views as it depends how many platform extensions are built and to what length.
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« Reply #81 on: January 01, 2018, 19:35:37 » |
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On RTT» are IETs▸ booked as IETs or generic 125HST?
I think that stock allocation has to be made as as input to the timetabling process, since it determines the timings. That means it can't be changed as and when new IETs arrive, so a common type has to be used. As the IETs are a lot quicker on electric, that common stock may as well be the existing HST▸ . As to the relative timings on diesel, the answer is either "not enough difference to worry about" or else "watch this space". Based on statements that the IET services will run in the HST timetables until everything's been changed over, I'm sure it's believed (and perhaps tested) that IETs perform as well as HSTs in all circumstances? |
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« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2018, 11:17:22 » |
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It was never used after they returned to FGW▸ in 2012, though remained in situ.
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« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2018, 15:26:47 » |
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Just spotted on JourneyCheck: 15:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 17:14
Facilities on the 15:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 17:14.
This is due to vandalism on a train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
17:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 20:46
Facilities on the 17:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 20:46.
This is due to vandalism on a train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
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« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2018, 15:45:03 » |
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Could be anything from spray paint to faeces.
Yes, the latter happens 'regularly', according to a driver I know.
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« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2018, 16:28:32 » |
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It was never used after they returned to FGW▸ in 2012, though remained in situ.
Ah softening people up for the IET▸ As predicted by my crystal ball. Early on in the IEP▸ saga I said something like "catering on existing trains will have to be reduced or withdrawn in order to prepare people for the new trains" |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2018, 16:37:23 » |
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They will have catering in the form of a trolley. Many in the know say that that those take more money than a static buffet. No crystal ball - I think we've known that GWRs▸ IETs▸ were never having a buffet....
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« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2018, 16:43:21 » |
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As predicted by my crystal ball.
Early on in the IEP▸ saga I said something like "catering on existing trains will have to be reduced or withdrawn in order to prepare people for the new trains"
If that was the case wouldn't you expect Cotswold Line trains formed of HSTs▸ , that have formed the majority of services daily for many years now, would have had their catering replaced by a trolley as well? |
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« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2018, 23:50:17 » |
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Passing through Reading today, I didn't see a load of new trains, but did spot a couple of oddities.
At least two trains were shown on the platform CIS▸ as 8 car (and 1L66 from SWA» was indeed an HST▸ , not 2x800), but this was followed by "first class is in the middle and front" and the other carriage locations for a 2x800.
The one IET▸ I did see was (I think) 1C15 to BRI» (and it was just 1x800), but despite all the electricity so expensively provided for its use it was running on diesel power. Ungrateful or what?
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« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2018, 07:56:39 » |
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I was on an IET▸ on Monday from Swindon to Reading and it was on diesel when I got off at Reading.
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