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« Reply #165 on: October 15, 2017, 13:27:02 » |
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Not copying someone else's, Graham, just cross-posting his own, across the two forums. Without reading the thread's posts that have preceded him.
No indication I've heard of over-running, yet. I fancy that that'll be what happens Graham, rather than another weekend this time - it has to be completed to allow the IETs▸ to run tomorrow. So I suspect that they'll work till finished, rather than abandon & reschedule
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« Reply #166 on: October 15, 2017, 13:34:16 » |
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I don’t think anything has to be completed to allow IEP▸ ’s to run tomorrow. They will be either on diesel from Paddington or changing over between Burnham and Maidenhead as per temporary signage instructions.
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John R
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« Reply #167 on: October 15, 2017, 13:34:33 » |
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No indication I've heard of over-running, yet. I fancy that that'll be what happens Graham, rather than another weekend this time - it has to be completed to allow the IETs▸ to run tomorrow. So I suspect that they'll work till finished, rather than abandon & reschedule
Do I assume then that the intent is that the IETs run on electric as far as Didcot tomorrow? If that's the case, why are there further closures through October and early November?
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« Reply #168 on: October 15, 2017, 13:38:07 » |
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IETs▸ are only cleared to run on leccy between Paddington and Maidenhead. Extension to Didcot is scheduled for January 2018.
Elsewhere they can run at their maximum rated diesel power. 700kW, or 940hp at flywheel, per engine. Testing has shown that they can easily keep to HST▸ timings.
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« Reply #169 on: October 15, 2017, 13:40:40 » |
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No, as far as Maidenhead (or is it Reading?). Didcot comes in early January, along with 387s as far as Didcot. Incomplete would, as II says, mean dieslel all the way from PAD» , with more fuel usage.
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John R
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« Reply #170 on: October 15, 2017, 13:45:50 » |
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That was my understanding but the comment about having to be completed to allow the IET▸ 's to run tomorrow seemed to imply otherwise.
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grahame
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« Reply #171 on: October 15, 2017, 13:55:04 » |
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That was my understanding but the comment about having to be completed to allow the IET▸ 's to run tomorrow seemed to imply otherwise.
My understanding is that - provided the line is handed back before 06:45 - the IET could run tomorrow in passenger service, whether or not works were completed. Sure it'll be on diesel power most (if not all) the way. The works are preparatory for the electric 387 service to Didcot in January that releases more 165 and 166 units. Follow up question was "They didn't finish last time and needed another possession. Are they doing better this time, or is there the chance of another Reading blockade?"
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John R
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« Reply #172 on: October 15, 2017, 14:03:11 » |
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There are Sunday morning blockades for the next three weekends currently showing on GWR▸ 's Planned Engineering page.
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ChrisB
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« Reply #173 on: October 15, 2017, 14:04:12 » |
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I suspect my earlier post is incorrect above, sorry JohnR. Of course, even if this work completes on time, tomorrow's IETs▸ will only run s far as MAI▸ on the juice.
Where does anyone think the best place to witness the dropping of the pantographs might be?
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« Reply #174 on: October 15, 2017, 14:22:39 » |
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From the end of Taplow platforms at the Maidenhead end (with a long zoom lens!). No bridges are handily located sadly, so it’ll not be easy to witness close-up.
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« Reply #175 on: October 15, 2017, 14:25:36 » |
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That was my understanding but the comment about having to be completed to allow the IET▸ 's to run tomorrow seemed to imply otherwise.
I think, reading back through the discussions, that Timmer's original point was that positive PR▸ about the successful first IET runs would probably take the focus off discussion of the short notice closure, not that the latter was a pre-requisite for IET to run... Paul
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« Reply #176 on: October 16, 2017, 11:22:15 » |
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Indeed with this mornings new posts, mostly about IET▸ , I found my previous post in this thread way back at the bottom of page nine in the "recent posts" display. Yesterdays news already...
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grahame
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« Reply #177 on: October 16, 2017, 13:40:54 » |
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Indeed with this mornings new posts, mostly about IET▸ , I found my previous post in this thread way back at the bottom of page nine in the "recent posts" display. Yesterdays news already...
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Bumping the topic again for you Paul ... I've been to Melksham and Westbury Stations today ... both displaying engineering posters up to 13th October, and also forward looking posters about sunday morning Reading blockades and about the Severn Tunnel. Not a word about the weekend that's just gone (but why should there be now?) and certainly nothing to tell me about any other changes during this week or for next weekend. I think 14th and 15th October are like Boxing Day ... very poor show that there are no trains, but let's ride out the storm and people will forget about it. Maybe so ... but it would have been really good to have had posters up at places effected. Questioning now would / will be me with "but it's over / nothing we can do. Look at our wonderful new trains", and the heavy flow of posts here indicates that actually people are looking at the sparkling new trains. Frankly, I'm as bad ... I'm working of stuff that's forward - what's been and gone has gone; potential learning lesson, but no use crying over spilled milk.
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« Reply #178 on: October 16, 2017, 14:04:16 » |
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So having changed my travel plans due to the last minute weekend shutdown I got the 0853 from Plymouth back towards Paddington today - clearly a lot of people had the same idea and it was full and standing from Taunton, probably earlier in fact.
I guess it would be useful to know if all the required works were completed over the weekend, having clearly not been when they were originally scheduled, or are we going to have another weekend over the next few weeks where everything grinds to a halt at short notice.
From what I hear, the replacement bus experience was not, on the whole, a pleasant one.
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grahame
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« Reply #179 on: October 16, 2017, 14:53:04 » |
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I guess it would be useful to know if all the required works were completed over the weekend, having clearly not been when they were originally scheduled, or are we going to have another weekend over the next few weeks where everything grinds to a halt at short notice.
I asked. From GWR▸ (Twitter) Hi there! The Reading works were completed on time. Any further improvements will not relate to last weekends work. Rach
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