IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues

[whole diary]

[stuving]

Rather curiously these five from that list (diagram NP108) are on Journeycheck as a 5-car, but according to the allocations on internal system Genius are in fact 9-car, 800306.

1L24   Swansea   06:29   Padton   09:30         
1C09   Padton   10:00   BrstlTM   11:39         
1A17   BrstlTM   12:30   Padton   14:14         
1B46   Padton   14:45   Swansea   17:43         
1L92   Swansea   18:29   Padton   21:29   

If anyone is out and about and can confirm then it would be intestesting to know which system is wrong.

Tiger's CIS^▸ (Customer Information System) says 9-car for 1A17 - but I guess that's driven off Genius. If that's the that case, there have been enough station calls by 1L24 and 1C09 with it announced as a 9 for any shortcoming to be reported, surely?

[Rob on the hill]

Just boarded 1A17, 800306, definitely 9 coaches.

[IndustryInsider]

Just boarded 1A17, 800306, definitely 9 coaches.

OK, that's great, thanks.  To be fair the last two journeys on that diagram (1B46 and 1L92) were not on the list anyway, but that's three from TG's post on the previous page that shouldn't have been on that list on JourneyCheck.

We know that it didn't always show all short formations, but it's useful to know that it can also show short formations that are in fact not!

[CMRail]

It’s gotten to the point where I simply don’t care if a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) or IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train) turns up... I still sit comfortably (not literally in comfort, in safeness and easiness) and I don’t commute planning to see an on board Bake Off set provinding for the passengers.

Occasional faults are forgivable and I would only report if it happens multiple times. One issue is the train thinking it needs Air Con when it needs heating.

[IndustryInsider]

Two diagrams covered by 5 vice 10 cars today, both of them 802 diagrams:

IW955:
1A73, 05:29 PLY^» (Plymouth - next trains)-PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)
1C76, 10:03 PAD-PNZ
1A97, 16:00 PNZ-PAD

NP131:
1L24, 06:29 SWA^» (Swansea - next trains)-PAD
1B22, 10:15 PAD-CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)
1L60, 12:56 CDF-PAD
1B51. 15:45 PAD-SWA
1L94, 19:29 SWA-PAD

I suppose at least the last one of those, 1L94, is actually ideally suited to be a 5-car!  The quicker the fleet of 9-car 802s is introduced into passenger service, the better -  I've only very rarely seen them out and about so far.

[IndustryInsider]

Some swaps have been done, so both diagrams covered properly now from 1C76, 10:03 PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-PNZ (10 car), and 1B22 10:15 PAD-CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) with a 9-car.

[trainbuff]

Sea Wall at Dawlish -- video from Devon Live / CrossCountry not running through

Bit of topic drift (I can split if need be) ... but are those really people on the sea wall in the video?  Are they being a bit silly being there?

When I lived in Devon many years ago I met a lifeboatman. He told me that if you get a bit of a blow and the waves get up, people go and look. The bigger the waves the more people who go and watch

Darwin Award Candidates!

[1st fan]

Sea Wall at Dawlish -- video from Devon Live / CrossCountry not running through

Bit of topic drift (I can split if need be) ... but are those really people on the sea wall in the video?  Are they being a bit silly being there?

When I lived in Devon many years ago I met a lifeboatman. He told me that if you get a bit of a blow and the waves get up, people go and look. The bigger the waves the more people who go and watch

Darwin Award Candidates!

Indeed and it's sometimes the otherwise sensible people who don't think it's dangerous and get too close.

[TonyK]

Two diagrams covered by 5 vice 10 cars today, both of them 802 diagrams:

IW955:
1A73, 05:29 PLY^» (Plymouth - next trains)-PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)
1C76, 10:03 PAD-PNZ
1A97, 16:00 PNZ-PAD

NP131:
1L24, 06:29 SWA^» (Swansea - next trains)-PAD
1B22, 10:15 PAD-CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)
1L60, 12:56 CDF-PAD
1B51. 15:45 PAD-SWA
1L94, 19:29 SWA-PAD

I suppose at least the last one of those, 1L94, is actually ideally suited to be a 5-car!  The quicker the fleet of 9-car 802s is introduced into passenger service, the better -  I've only very rarely seen them out and about so far.

I'm going to give up searching, and ask where I can find this detail?

[IndustryInsider]

Two diagrams covered by 5 vice 10 cars today, both of them 802 diagrams:

IW955:
1A73, 05:29 PLY^» (Plymouth - next trains)-PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)

NP131:
1L24, 06:29 SWA^» (Swansea - next trains)-PAD

I'm going to give up searching, and ask where I can find this detail?

By joining GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)’s workforce and getting the appropriate apps!  Anyway, I think the 18:07 to Frome is the only short form so far today.  Unless you count the return 20:17 Frome to Westbury run for that unit?  I can guarantee that won’t be a problem!

[IndustryInsider]

No shortformed IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train) that I could find today so far, checking both JourneyCheck and Tyrell.

In fact, two Cotswold Line diagrams that are supposed to be 5-car, were covered by 9-car units, so there were the following longforms. 

1W19, 09:21 PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-WOF
1P29 12:00 WOF-PAD
1W31, 15:22 PAD-GMV
1P44, 18:29 GMV-PAD

1W12, 05:47 PAD-WOF
1P22, 08:25 WOF-PAD
1W23, 11:20 PAD-WOF
1P33, 13:55 WOF-PAD

1P22 and 1W31 being especially useful to run as 9-cars as they load well as 5-cars.

[TonyK]

By joining GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)’s workforce and getting the appropriate apps!  Anyway, I think the 18:07 to Frome is the only short form so far today.  Unless you count the return 20:17 Frome to Westbury run for that unit?  I can guarantee that won’t be a problem!

I thought my searching skills were letting me down!

[IndustryInsider]

No shortforms yesterday that I could see, though a handful today which are 5 vice 9 or 10:

(list modified to include 1B79 and 1G88)
1B10, 07:45 PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-SWA^» (Swansea - next trains) (NOT listed on JourneyCheck)
1C17, 14:00 PAD-BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)
1B42, 14:15 PAD-CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains)
1B79, 18:45 PAD-SWA (NOT listed on JourneyCheck)
1G88, 19:48 PAD-WOS^» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) (NOT listed on JourneyCheck)

1L55, 11:29 SWA-PAD (NOT listed on JourneyCheck)
1L82, 16:56 CDF-PAD
1A25, 16:30 BRI-PAD

So, a slightly disappointing end to otherwise very good weekday allocations.

Totals so far this week is 11 from a very rough estimate of 800 trains, so just over 1.3%: 
MONDAY - 2
TUESDAY - 1 (not including 20:17 Frome to Westbury!)
WEDNESDAY - 0
THURSDAY - 0
FRIDAY - 8

The improvements seem to have coincided with much more use of the new 9-car 802/1s that are still being delivered.

[welshman]

07:56 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) to PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) today - 9 car.  Slightly late at CDF because of a door issue at Swansea and no hot drinks because the boiler wasn't working.   "Happens all the time" said the trolley person.

16:15 back.  2 x 5 car. 6 minute waits at Swindon and BPW^» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) because of early running.  Would have been similarly early at CDF too but for a wait outside.  Subjectively, seemed to be running more quickly than HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train) on the Welsh side of the tunnel.   Train manager alleged that since the electricity Monsieur this is regular and a speeded up timetable is coming in December.

[YouKnowNothing]

Lots of HST^▸ (High Speed Train) in use on Friday for the South Wales routes.... a few short forms not listed on journeychecker as well......