IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues

[whole diary]

[old original]

I've put this here because of my suspicious nature about these new trains...
From the train running info it states the 2003 Pad Ply is cancelled due to severe weather but the 2103 will run normally.  Now I know high tide at Dawlish is about 1730 so that's can't be the issue, so what is?

[Western Pathfinder]

Dawlish is not looking good for tomorrow according to NRs^» (Network Rail - home page) press dept see below for details
https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/railway-in-devon-to-be-closed-tomorrow-morning-owing-to-extreme-weather

[stuving]

I've put this here because of my suspicious nature about these new trains...
From the train running info it states the 2003 Pad Ply is cancelled due to severe weather but the 2103 will run normally.  Now I know high tide at Dawlish is about 1730 so that's can't be the issue, so what is?

Now reads:

20:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 23:36 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Exeter St Davids.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Reading, Newbury, Pewsey, Westbury, Castle Cary, Taunton and Tiverton Parkway.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 10.
Additional Information
GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) apologies for the cancellation of this service between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids due to forecast severe weather in Devon & Cornwall overnight Tuesday and Wednesday morning. The 21:03 London Paddington to Plymouth service will run as scheduled and customers are advised to board this service.

Somehow that doesn't look like the whole story, does it?

[Timmer]

I can only think so a 10 car IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) isn’t stuck all morning in Devon?

[IndustryInsider]

Certainly easier having HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s/units stuck that side at the moment than having two IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) sets stuck there.

[martyjon]

I've put this here because of my suspicious nature about these new trains...
From the train running info it states the 2003 Pad Ply is cancelled due to severe weather but the 2103 will run normally.  Now I know high tide at Dawlish is about 1730 so that's can't be the issue, so what is?

Now reads:

20:03 London Paddington to Plymouth due 23:36 will be reinstated.
It will be started from Exeter St Davids.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Reading, Newbury, Pewsey, Westbury, Castle Cary, Taunton and Tiverton Parkway.
This is due to forecasted severe weather.
Will be formed of 4 coaches instead of 10.
Additional Information
GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) apologies for the cancellation of this service between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids due to forecast severe weather in Devon & Cornwall overnight Tuesday and Wednesday morning. The 21:03 London Paddington to Plymouth service will run as scheduled and customers are advised to board this service.

Somehow that doesn't like the whole story, does it?

If everything was honky-dory they could run the service to Exeter St. Davids so I "smell a rat" and suspect they are being economical with the truth.

[IndustryInsider]

If everything was honky-dory they could run the service to Exeter St. Davids so I "smell a rat" and suspect they are being economical with the truth.

Well the sets stables overnight at Laira, so if you ran it to Exeter then you'd either have to find somewhere else to stable it (nearest IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) approved facility is Stoke Gifford), or run it empty to Laira (which kind of defeats the object of it not getting struck that side of Dawlish, if that's the reason).

[Clan Line]

From today's Daily Telegraph letters page:

[TonyK]

Someone has come late to the party...

[YouKnowNothing]

With the short forms still happening, 13 months after the introduction of the new trains and with the twitter help actually admitting that the shorts are due to staff training, do we know if there is an end in sight for the training?

Does anyone have an up to date timeline/programme for the IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) programme showing the introduction of new trains, when the staff training will finish, infrastructure upgrades etc...

[CMRail]

With the short forms still happening, 13 months after the introduction of the new trains and with the twitter help actually admitting that the shorts are due to staff training, do we know if there is an end in sight for the training?

Does anyone have an up to date timeline/programme for the IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) programme showing the introduction of new trains, when the staff training will finish, infrastructure upgrades etc...

You should see 800001 and 800002 on the network next week freeing up some more duties and by January shortforms should be at 1 or 2 a day due to stock shortage. All five car 802s are now in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) however they are only slowly putting them onto lines and through Swindon there should be no HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) by march excluding substitution and empty stock. HSTs will solely be diagramed onto B and H.

This time next month, excluding substitution and STP (Short Term Plan Diagrams) all services to and from Cheltenham should be Intercity Express operated, and the line will he the first to see full IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) introduction.

From January there should only be 5 HST Diagrams to Wales and Bristol (possibly 4) and slowly going by March. No HSTs planned for Cotswolds for after January.

Thanks to the new timetable  now being postponed to December 3000, there will be more available units than required between February and December meaning that to see a short form it would be very rare.

[Bmblbzzz]

Thanks to the new timetable  now being postponed to December 3000, there will be more available units than required between February and December meaning that to see a short form it would be very rare.

I can't say I'm truly surprised at the 982 year delay, only at the forward planning. 

[CMRail]

Thanks to the new timetable  now being postponed to December 3000, there will be more available units than required between February and December meaning that to see a short form it would be very rare.

I can't say I'm truly surprised at the 982 year delay, only at the forward planning. 

It wasn’t a typo  It was, I meant May 4000.

[YouKnowNothing]

With the short forms still happening, 13 months after the introduction of the new trains and with the twitter help actually admitting that the shorts are due to staff training, do we know if there is an end in sight for the training?

Does anyone have an up to date timeline/programme for the IEP^▸ (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) programme showing the introduction of new trains, when the staff training will finish, infrastructure upgrades etc...

You should see 800001 and 800002 on the network next week freeing up some more duties and by January shortforms should be at 1 or 2 a day due to stock shortage. All five car 802s are now in the UK^▸ (United Kingdom) however they are only slowly putting them onto lines and through Swindon there should be no HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) by march excluding substitution and empty stock. HSTs will solely be diagramed onto B and H.

This time next month, excluding substitution and STP (Short Term Plan Diagrams) all services to and from Cheltenham should be Intercity Express operated, and the line will he the first to see full IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) introduction.

From January there should only be 5 HST Diagrams to Wales and Bristol (possibly 4) and slowly going by March. No HSTs planned for Cotswolds for after January.

Thanks to the new timetable  now being postponed to December 3000, there will be more available units than required between February and December meaning that to see a short form it would be very rare.

That answers the carriage introduction but what about the training that is also sapping available stock?

[IndustryInsider]

With the short forms still happening, 13 months after the introduction of the new trains and with the twitter help actually admitting that the shorts are due to staff training, do we know if there is an end in sight for the training?

Long way to go until driver training is complete, though in fairness to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) they are undertaking it at quite a pace currently.  We are talking about many hundreds of drivers being trained in total, each of which takes 3 weeks minimum to train up.

At least two units are being used for training per day, but in some cases they are using units that have yet to enter traffic.