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« Reply #2205 on: July 11, 2024, 15:50:59 »

Hmmm, I would have expected to see rather more cancellations had that been the case?

I don’t see how that information would be known, unless they happen to be a Resource Manager.
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« Reply #2206 on: July 11, 2024, 21:37:26 »

Talking to a GWR (Great Western Railway) member of staff just after midnight this morning, following the football 30 drivers had already gone sick.

Now shall we run a sweepstake for how many cancellations on Sunday?

I won't be on a train on Sunday, so I shan't buy a sweepstake ticket. I have a final on TV. I wasn't on a train yesterday, as I had a semi on.
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« Reply #2207 on: July 11, 2024, 21:44:36 »

Blank nicely chilled I trust !.
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« Reply #2208 on: July 11, 2024, 21:46:40 »

Blank nicely chilled I trust !.

No, beer served lightly poured, at room temperature. Wine Sunday, perchance.
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« Reply #2209 on: July 12, 2024, 12:02:41 »

Talking to a GWR (Great Western Railway) member of staff just after midnight this morning, following the football 30 drivers had already gone sick.

Now shall we run a sweepstake for how many cancellations on Sunday?

Hmmm, I would have expected to see rather more cancellations had that been the case?

Sunday likely to be pretty bad, though to make themselves unavailable drivers have to give 5 days notice, so they would have had to have faith England were going to win last night!

As for how bad?  Perhaps someone can trawl back to the Euro 2020 final in 2021…I guess it will be quite similar to that?

That can't be right, nobody knows if they are suddenly going to be unwell in 5 days time
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« Reply #2210 on: July 12, 2024, 12:07:52 »


That can't be right, nobody knows if they are suddenly going to be unwell in 5 days time

No reference was made to going unwell with 5 days notice.  The post was in reference to Sunday availability. 
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« Reply #2211 on: July 12, 2024, 12:09:30 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) have issued the following guidance already for Sunday 14th July -  

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GWR is advising customers to check their journey on Sunday morning before leaving home because of a shortage of train crew.
 
Scheduled engineering work in Oxfordshire and the Severn Tunnel means more train crew than normal are required to run train services, while sickness and England reaching the final of the Euros likely to reduce the number of colleagues available for overtime shifts.
 
GWR will implement contingency plans to protect core services and minimise disruption for customers. These are particularly likely to impact frequencies on branch line services and cause short-notice cancellations and alterations, on long-distance services between:
London Paddington and Bristol
London Paddington, Swindon and Cheltenham/Gloucester
Bristol Temple Meads and Exeter/Plymouth
The number of cancellations could lead to a train every two hours on these lines, and other routes may also be affected.
 
On the impacted routes, where trains are able to run they are expected to be very busy and customers may find it more convenient to travel the day before or after.  
 
To help customers, tickets for Sunday 14 July will be valid on Saturday 13 or Monday 15 July.
 
Journey planners and other industry systems are expected to be updated on Friday morning with key changes. There are likely to be other short-notice changes through the day on Saturday and customers can keep up-to-date with the latest information at www.gwr.com/check.
 
If trains are cancelled, customers can use their existing ticket on the previous or the next available service. If you choose not to travel the usual refund arrangements remain in place.
 
GWR expects to run a full service on Monday 17 June.
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« Reply #2212 on: July 12, 2024, 12:47:03 »

I assumer the last line should read Monday 15th July....
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« Reply #2213 on: July 12, 2024, 12:50:34 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) have issued the following guidance already for Sunday 14th July -  

A particularly disingenuous piece of guidance.
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« Reply #2214 on: July 12, 2024, 14:03:12 »

I suppose it’s good that least GWR (Great Western Railway) have admitted one of the reasons why they won’t be able to run a full timetable is because of the football.
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« Reply #2215 on: July 12, 2024, 14:44:27 »

I suppose it’s good that least GWR (Great Western Railway) have admitted one of the reasons why they won’t be able to run a full timetable is because of the football.
Hmmm not so upfront as to why on social media along with the comments switched off on both X and FB.
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« Reply #2216 on: July 12, 2024, 15:32:25 »

Talking to a GWR (Great Western Railway) member of staff just after midnight this morning, following the football 30 drivers had already gone sick.

Now shall we run a sweepstake for how many cancellations on Sunday?

Hmmm, I would have expected to see rather more cancellations had that been the case?

Sunday likely to be pretty bad, though to make themselves unavailable drivers have to give 5 days notice, so they would have had to have faith England were going to win last night!

As for how bad?  Perhaps someone can trawl back to the Euro 2020 final in 2021…I guess it will be quite similar to that?

That can't be right, nobody knows if they are suddenly going to be unwell in 5 days time

I suspect it's a version of "International Flu", which famously used to strike most of Wales in the run-up to rugby internationals back in the 70s (when Wales played rugby!) - at that time, the epidemic was restricted largely to rugby supporters and prevented them from attending work on matchdays and (in particularly serious cases when Wales were away from home) the days before and after , however it seems to have mutated more recently and this variant is mainly scything through English GWR train crew.

The good news is that it's of short duration, and by Monday all those affected will be feeling fine again, apart from possibly a bit of a headache!   Wink
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« Reply #2217 on: July 12, 2024, 16:18:37 »


The good news is that it's of short duration, and by Monday all those affected will be feeling fine again, apart from possibly a bit of a headache!   Wink
Can't be much of a headache as crews will be subject to random drug and drink testing.
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« Reply #2218 on: July 12, 2024, 17:54:59 »

I suppose it’s good that least GWR (Great Western Railway) have admitted one of the reasons why they won’t be able to run a full timetable is because of the football.
Hmmm not so upfront as to why on social media along with the comments switched off on both X and FB.

And it’s the last of the reasons listed, insinuating it’s of lesser significance to the other ones.  When it’s the most significant.

I know of one GWR depot (where drivers are committed to work if nobody is available to cover their shift) which is fully staffed with no uncovered shifts and several standby drivers throughout the whole day.

It will be the HSS (High Speed Services) depots that are decimated as usual.
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« Reply #2219 on: July 13, 2024, 07:24:38 »

It will be the HSS (High Speed Services) depots that are decimated as usual.

I know a few HSS depots that are fully staffed with no uncovered turns. I suspect it’s just one or two depots.
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