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« Reply #1380 on: February 23, 2020, 08:15:36 »

Cancelled today so far........

08:27 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:30
10:54 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 12:59
16:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 18:32
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:31
19:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 20:59
19:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 21:33
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 21:59
21:05 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington due 23:15
21:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 23:01
21:58 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon due 22:59
22:37 London Paddington to Bristol Parkway due 00:11
23:09 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 00:13
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« Reply #1381 on: February 23, 2020, 10:01:55 »

Cancelled today so far........

08:27 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:30
10:54 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 12:59
16:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 18:32
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:31
19:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 20:59
19:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 21:33
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 21:59
21:05 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington due 23:15
21:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 23:01
21:58 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon due 22:59
22:37 London Paddington to Bristol Parkway due 00:11
23:09 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 00:13

I think the cancellations on the Golden Valley are partially due to a defective rail between Kemble and Swindon
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« Reply #1382 on: February 23, 2020, 10:26:18 »

Cancelled today so far........

08:27 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:30
10:54 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 12:59
16:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 18:32
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:31
19:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 20:59
19:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 21:33
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 21:59
21:05 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington due 23:15
21:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 23:01
21:58 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon due 22:59
22:37 London Paddington to Bristol Parkway due 00:11
23:09 Swindon to Cheltenham Spa due 00:13

I think the cancellations on the Golden Valley are partially due to a defective rail between Kemble and Swindon

It is shortage of train crew according to Journycheck. The defective rail is causing delays of up to 10 minutes.
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« Reply #1383 on: March 08, 2020, 11:19:41 »

Seems that GWR (Great Western Railway) are short of Twitter Crew today
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« Reply #1384 on: March 14, 2020, 17:07:00 »

All cancelled - crew shortage - doesn't bode well for Sunday

14:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 17:00
15:41 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 17:40
16:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 19:00
17:28 Cardiff Central to Swansea due 18:25
17:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 19:08
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:32
18:17 London Paddington to Swansea due 21:08
18:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 20:32
19:03 London Paddington to Castle Cary due 20:40
19:10 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads due 20:15
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 22:00
20:07 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads due 21:12
20:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 22:28
21:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 23:05
21:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 23:05
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« Reply #1385 on: March 14, 2020, 17:44:56 »

All cancelled - crew shortage - doesn't bode well for Sunday

14:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 17:00
15:41 Cardiff Central to London Paddington due 17:40
16:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 19:00
17:28 Cardiff Central to Swansea due 18:25
17:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 19:08
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:32
18:17 London Paddington to Swansea due 21:08
18:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 20:32
19:03 London Paddington to Castle Cary due 20:40
19:10 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads due 20:15
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 22:00
20:07 Taunton to Bristol Temple Meads due 21:12
20:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 22:28
21:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 23:05
21:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 23:05

Quite a few organisations I have heard about recently have a number of staff self isolating.  I think this might get worse in the next few weeks and there is nothing we or GWR (Great Western Railway) are able to do about it. 
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« Reply #1386 on: March 14, 2020, 18:26:22 »

Indeed, under present circumstances I am rather more forgiving of GWR (Great Western Railway) for staff shortages.
It is the failure to provide enough staff under NORMAL circumstances that I find hard to forgive.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1387 on: March 14, 2020, 18:48:27 »

I wonder if they might ask recently retired staff for help???


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« Reply #1388 on: March 15, 2020, 11:00:36 »

The usual routes cancelled on a Sunday due to crew shortage (a number of foreshortenings too), I guess whether it's self isolation or Spring BBQs, the public will probably be used to finding alternatives so the impact will be mitigated;

12:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 14:31
13:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 15:31
14:36 London Paddington to Castle Cary due 16:10
14:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 17:02
15:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 17:59
16:24 Castle Cary to London Paddington due 18:06
16:36 London Paddington to Castle Cary due 18:10
17:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:31
18:24 Castle Cary to London Paddington due 20:07
18:36 London Paddington to Castle Cary due 20:09
18:58 Taunton to London Paddington due 21:38
19:29 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 21:04
19:32 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 21:33
19:58 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 21:59
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« Reply #1389 on: March 15, 2020, 11:42:42 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) following Government advice and telling any employees with a high temperature or new bad cough self isolate.

It remains to be seen whether shortages of staff will lead to an emergency timetable on some routes as the virus spreads, or whether there will be a small number of daily cancellations as per today.
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« Reply #1390 on: March 15, 2020, 11:47:05 »

The usual routes cancelled on a Sunday due to crew shortage (a number of foreshortenings too), I guess whether it's self isolation or Spring BBQs, the public will probably be used to finding alternatives so the impact will be mitigated ...

For the sake of "completeness" ... I was in multi-operator territory yesterday and there were also crew shortages causing cancellations removing services I planned to use on West Midland Trains and Cross Country (and a GWR (Great Western Railway) cancellation "person hit by train").     As one would expect, the railway industry is set up to have a certain level of contingency after which it starts to fall apart - however, I am disappointed at how close that contingency appears to be to the normal daily operation and how often things fall apart.  It does look as if GWR is very much a player within this system, and not a case of the problems being purely of its own making.

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Yeah ... time and again, information boards and staff (however nice they may be) seem to be inaccurate and doling out inaccurate or wrong advise.  And for longer / more complex journeys the public - especially those who know the rail network along their whole path - are well advised to listen and read, but then question and check other sources too.   Result of doing that yesterday ... I got home over an hour and a half earlier than had I followed advise which was given with the best of intent and would have got me home ... but ...
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« Reply #1391 on: March 15, 2020, 16:44:47 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) following Government advice and telling any employees with a high temperature or new bad cough self isolate.

It remains to be seen whether shortages of staff will lead to an emergency timetable on some routes as the virus spreads, or whether there will be a small number of daily cancellations as per today.

Plenty of opportunity to arrange contingencies/bus replacements - there'll be less demand with schools closing so the coach companies will be glad of the work!
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« Reply #1392 on: March 15, 2020, 17:35:54 »

I wouldn’t disagree with that.  Also of course there may well be a fraction of the number of passengers travelling, potentially largely prohibited from doing so, so extensive contingency planning might not be required.  We’ll just have to see how it all pans out.
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« Reply #1393 on: March 15, 2020, 17:44:53 »

I wouldn’t disagree with that.  Also of course there may well be a fraction of the number of passengers travelling, potentially largely prohibited from doing so, so extensive contingency planning might not be required.  We’ll just have to see how it all pans out.

There was a French government announcement about planned railway service levels - down to about half or one-third of train numbers. That was linked to much lower passenger numbers, due to the significant big stick close-everything measures of yesterday, balanced against needing to keep people far enough apart. I'm not sure I expect such a clear logical explanation of what's being done here.
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« Reply #1394 on: March 15, 2020, 19:33:03 »

I wouldn’t disagree with that.  Also of course there may well be a fraction of the number of passengers travelling, potentially largely prohibited from doing so, so extensive contingency planning might not be required.  We’ll just have to see how it all pans out.

There was a French government announcement about planned railway service levels - down to about half or one-third of train numbers. That was linked to much lower passenger numbers, due to the significant big stick close-everything measures of yesterday, balanced against needing to keep people far enough apart. I'm not sure I expect such a clear logical explanation of what's being done here.

Greetings from Callac in Brittany, where cafes, restaurants, the cinema and non-food shops are indeed shuting down, although a couple of restaurants have interpreted this as being able to remain open for takeaways only. Food shops, the chemist, banks, our tabac (with bar area closed off) petrol stations and vets will remain open, along with the town hall and post office.

We are not quite under "lockdown" in the Spanish sense, where apparently they are sending drones up to tell people to stay indoors, but there's a sense that sort of tightening up may not be far off.

Train-wise in this part of the world, the first revised timetables starting from Monday have Guingamp-Carhaix and Guingamp-Paimpol lines running as normal, with a slightly reduced service on the main lines towards Lannion, Saint Brieuc etc. Always the expected "subject to change as the situation develops" of course.

Also, as may well have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, France will progressively reduce long-distance train, bus and plane travel over the coming days to limit the spread of the virus, according to the ecology minister Elisabeth Borne. This may well prove even more pressing given the upcoming closure of the border with Germany.

I certainly wouldn't rule out suspension of UK (United Kingdom)-France travel as well in the near future, but at the moment in terms of Brittany Ferries, all Portsmouth-Caen, Portsmouth-St Malo, and Poole-Cherbourg services are running normally in both directions.

Portsmouth-Cherbourg services are currently slated to resume on April 30, 2020. All Portsmouth-Le Havre services are cancelled until April 8.

Seven Plymouth-Roscoff services have been cancelled between now and April 9.

On a personal note, myself and Nicki are currently alive and well, and are preparing to focus on remaining as fit and sane as possible going forward as this thing pans out. We are living in a department that has one of the lowest levels of confirmed virus cases in the country, and hopefully that will continue.

As an aside, as an Irish Citizen, Nicki voted in the French local elections which, to the surprise of many, went ahead today as planned.

I may attempt a local trip out by train next Friday to see how things are going, but that will obviously depend on how practical and responsible doing that turns out to be.

Stay safe everyone   Smiley
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