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« Reply #1095 on: September 15, 2021, 14:10:21 »

Dunno, but in French doesn't inexperience mean "unexperimented" ie untested?
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« Reply #1096 on: September 15, 2021, 15:51:38 »

Dunno, but in French doesn't inexperience mean "unexperimented" ie untested?

Not quite - though those two words are jumbled together meaningwise in French.

Going back even before the Telegraph in the evolutionary chain of what this means, the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) announcement wasn't in French - and said:
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Winners of clean maritime competition announced as the UK (United Kingdom)'s greenest cruise terminal opens in Southampton.
From:    Department for Transport, Innovate UK, Robert Courts MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context), and The Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP
Published    15 September 2021

 
  •    green submarine and shipping charge-points powered by offshore wind turbines will receive share of £23 million research and development (R&D) competition   
  •     Maritime Minister supports the opening of the UK’s greenest cruise terminal at Southampton Port 
  •     comes as UK sets out intention to eliminate all emissions from shipping by 2050

The first ever green submarine study has been named as one of 55 winning projects of a £23 million government-funded R&D competition, announced today (15 September 2021) by Transport Secretary Grant Shapps, in Greenwich, as part of the greenest ever London International Shipping Week.  

The Clean Maritime Demonstration Competition, announced as part of the Prime Minister’s 10 point plan for green industrial revolution, is supporting the development of innovative technology to propel the government’s commitment to have zero emission ships operating commercially by 2025 – creating hundreds of highly skilled jobs across the nation and establishing the UK as world leaders in clean maritime.

A fully automated net positive submarine fleet, powered entirely on green hydrogen, could help cleanse the oceans of toxic pollution by collecting microplastics on its pilot route between Glasgow and Belfast. While transporting cargo shipments, the fleet could secure significant emission savings of 27 tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions in the first year of operation, with an overall mission to reduce 300 million tonnes of CO2 emissions as the fleet grows.

After all that ...stuff... it sounds almost sensible. Though I do have a mental image of someone repainting a yellow one.
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« Reply #1097 on: September 15, 2021, 16:38:37 »

Was it just coincidence that the announcement was made in Inexperiencedwich?
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« Reply #1098 on: September 15, 2021, 18:46:20 »

Dunno, but in French doesn't inexperience mean "unexperimented" ie untested?

Not quite - though those two words are jumbled together meaningwise in French.
Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided
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« Reply #1099 on: September 16, 2021, 11:29:47 »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.

And generating a lot more electricity from proven wind and solar power, there is little point in replacing diesel fuel with imported natural gas used to generate the electricity.
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« Reply #1100 on: September 16, 2021, 14:40:46 »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.
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« Reply #1101 on: September 16, 2021, 14:44:26 »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.

But they'll go across that bridge!
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« Reply #1102 on: September 16, 2021, 15:01:02 »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.

But they'll go across that bridge!

I have seen reports that the Treasury has put a stop to any plans for such bridge. 
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« Reply #1103 on: September 16, 2021, 17:09:47 »


I remember hearing a Transport Union leader being asked about his plans replying:

"I'm going to jump off that bridge when I come to it".

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« Reply #1104 on: September 24, 2021, 14:37:05 »


Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided

Any noun can be verbed.
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« Reply #1105 on: September 24, 2021, 14:59:09 »

Any noun can be verbed.

I think you have nailed it.
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« Reply #1106 on: September 24, 2021, 18:03:59 »

Chaque nom peut être verbé et vous l'avez clouté.
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« Reply #1107 on: September 24, 2021, 18:05:13 »


Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided

Any noun can be verbed.

But can such verbing in English be Frenched?
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« Reply #1108 on: September 24, 2021, 18:54:15 »

Chaque nom peut être verbé et vous l'avez clouté.

Merci, Bmblbzzz, comme toujours.


But can such verbing in English be Frenched?

Ja, es ist möglich, denke ich.
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« Reply #1109 on: September 27, 2021, 19:30:44 »

I still think we should get the gwml electrified sll the way to Swansea.

387143 visited Newport and Cardiff today on the 1sr daytime training run to south wales for the 387s
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