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« Reply #180 on: August 12, 2022, 09:17:36 » |
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1N78 and 1A94 discovered on Wednesday that two 9 cars IETs▸ can’t fit past each other in one of the passing loops. Resulted in 1N78 reversing back off the branch and 45 min late arrivals
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« Reply #181 on: August 12, 2022, 11:48:20 » |
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Hitachi say a 9 car Azuma▸ train is 234m long. The current version of the Sectional Appendix says the length of the crossing loop at Goonbarrow Jcn is 224m. Ooops.
Goonbarrow Junction crossing loop used to be shown as 42 wagons + engine and van, which I reckon would convert to over 270m, so there has been some shrinkage since the 1970s
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« Reply #182 on: August 12, 2022, 11:59:15 » |
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Was it Goonbarrow? I'd heard it was at St Blazey.
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« Reply #183 on: August 12, 2022, 12:10:44 » |
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Seems to have been on the double line between Par and St Blazey.
9 car IET▸ EDMUs are scheduled on occasions to cross at Goonbarrow Jn.
Possibly the NR» local MOM▸ (whose regular photos appear on the Cornwall Rly Soc. website and Twitter etc might in due course give an update.
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« Reply #184 on: August 12, 2022, 12:53:30 » |
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No doubt all will become clear in time. Apologies for jumping the gun
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« Reply #185 on: August 12, 2022, 14:13:20 » |
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Real Time Trains suggests they were scheduled to pass each other between Par and St Blazey.
1A94 left Newquay on time at 14:55, and indeed Goonbarrow, on time but picked up a delay of well over half an hour between there are St Blazey where it called at 16:15 / 16:16 versus a schedule of 15:37 / 15:38
1N78 left Par on time at 15:31, but didn't call at St Blazey until 16:11 to 16:17, versus a schedule of 15:33 / 15:39. It trailed into Newquay 44 minutes late at 17:06. It set off back at 17:25 (versus a 16:50 schedule) ...
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« Reply #186 on: August 12, 2022, 15:12:51 » |
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Real Time Trains suggests they were scheduled to pass each other between Par and St Blazey.
1A94 left Newquay on time at 14:55, and indeed Goonbarrow, on time but picked up a delay of well over half an hour between there are St Blazey where it called at 16:15 / 16:16 versus a schedule of 15:37 / 15:38
1N78 left Par on time at 15:31, but didn't call at St Blazey until 16:11 to 16:17, versus a schedule of 15:33 / 15:39. It trailed into Newquay 44 minutes late at 17:06. It set off back at 17:25 (versus a 16:50 schedule) ...
At the time 1N78 departed Par, 1A94 had already entered the single-line section, but had not had time to reach St Blazey signal box. So the question must be where did 1N78 advance to to await 1A94, and why did wherever it ended up prevent 1A94 passing it? |
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« Reply #187 on: August 12, 2022, 18:51:47 » |
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1N78 and 1A94 discovered on Wednesday that two 9 cars IETs▸ can’t fit past each other in one of the passing loops. Resulted in 1N78 reversing back off the branch and 45 min late arrivals
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #188 on: August 13, 2022, 19:06:07 » |
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Shows the state our railways are in. Too much talk and not enough practical people.
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« Reply #189 on: August 14, 2022, 21:07:20 » |
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Just 4 departures from Newquay today.
Tomorrow ...
Buses to Luxulyan at 07:12, 09:15, 13:10 and 17:19
Trains to Paddington at 07:40, 09:19, 11:18, 13:19, 14:55 and 18:04.
Trains to Par at 19:45 and 21:34
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« Reply #190 on: August 14, 2022, 22:25:11 » |
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Just 4 departures from Newquay today.
Tomorrow ...
Buses to Luxulyan at 07:12, 09:15, 13:10 and 17:19
Trains to Paddington at 07:40, 09:19, 11:18, 13:19, 14:55 and 18:04.
Trains to Par at 19:45 and 21:34
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« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2022, 09:53:24 » |
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So what's the answer to this now annual problem? Using Par and/or Bodmin Parkway as a staging point for Boardmasters and using road transport for the rest of the journey to/from the Festival? It's clear now that the NQY▸ line isn't robust enough to cope, at least until the Mid Cornwall Metro work is completed.
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« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2022, 10:57:08 » |
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So what's the answer to this now annual problem? Using Par and/or Bodmin Parkway as a staging point for Boardmasters and using road transport for the rest of the journey to/from the Festival? It's clear now that the NQY▸ line isn't robust enough to cope, at least until the Mid Cornwall Metro work is completed.
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« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2022, 11:14:43 » |
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« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2022, 15:51:44 » |
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Not great news for anyone who'd stayed on in an attempt to avoid the inevitable Sunday/Monday chaos...
11:18 Newquay to London Paddington due 16:29 was terminated at Par and restarted from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway, Liskeard, St Germans and Saltash.
This is due to a broken down train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
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